Bobby Pierce Suspended for tire infraction at Volusia.

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #121
    I remember when Lance Armstrong had always passed every test. How'd he'd never risk his legacy.
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    • Buford.Justice
      Senior Member
      • May 2020
      • 4981

      #122
      Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
      Do you know that something wasn't on everyone's tires? Last I knew they do not check all competitors.
      Of course I don't and I don't know who all was even checked. I do know that the cars mentioned failed.

      Do you know who all would cheat and who would not?
      If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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      • Buford.Justice
        Senior Member
        • May 2020
        • 4981

        #123
        Originally posted by MRM View Post
        Some of the chemicals teams have been using are very bad for your health when breathing it in. It's a much as the series trying to protect crew members' health as much as it is cheating up tires.
        It's not realy worth the danger for using those chemicals. The dirt itself could be contaminated enough to affect track workers and drivers, and all involved in being on the track.

        Race tracks don't need bad attention, especially these days.
        If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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        • blncfn57
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2013

          #124
          Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
          Of course I don't and I don't know who all was even checked. I do know that the cars mentioned failed.

          Do you know who all would cheat and who would not?
          I sure don't, but I do realize that at least 2 of these guys were tested many times by WOO last year and many times in Florida this year and passed all other tests. I don't think tire dope is something you do once, nor is it something you get away with 100 times before you get caught once. Brian Carter said alot of things and sounded fairly convincing, but he offered zero proof. IMO, it's on them to show proof as they are the only party to hold the evidence, the teams don't have the samples.

          For all I know they are all guilty as charged, but the system being used leaves alot of room for speculation. IMO

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #125
            Way more speculation than there should be…..tire rule, lol.
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • Buford.Justice
              Senior Member
              • May 2020
              • 4981

              #126
              Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
              I sure don't, but I do realize that at least 2 of these guys were tested many times by WOO last year and many times in Florida this year and passed all other tests. I don't think tire dope is something you do once, nor is it something you get away with 100 times before you get caught once. Brian Carter said alot of things and sounded fairly convincing, but he offered zero proof. IMO, it's on them to show proof as they are the only party to hold the evidence, the teams don't have the samples.

              For all I know they are all guilty as charged, but the system being used leaves alot of room for speculation. IMO
              Anyone found guilty of cheating would fight if they truly are in the right. Are these drvers denying or challenging the decision? That would be interesting to find out.
              If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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              • Finnfan25
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 162

                #127
                Has there ever been a failed tire test to come back where a driver said "OK, I did it."?

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                • blncfn57
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2013

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Finnfan25 View Post
                  Has there ever been a failed tire test to come back where a driver said "OK, I did it."?
                  According the the DOD guys, yes there has been.

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                  • blncfn57
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2013

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
                    Anyone found guilty of cheating would fight if they truly are in the right. Are these drvers denying or challenging the decision? That would be interesting to find out.
                    I'm not sure how they would fight it. The sanctioning body has the tire samples, the teams prolly do not even know which tire in the trailer it came from after several weeks. I'm not sure lawsuits are a thing since you are a member once you register and pay their fees.... so you would technically be suing yourself.

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                    • kidrock
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 16409

                      #130
                      I was sure I read somewhere they could appeal the ruling but, I'm not sure what that entails.

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                      • ZERO25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 5240

                        #131
                        Shouldnt the series impound the tire that the sample came from, to run more tests with a different lab?

                        At least, the driver could send a sample to another lab!

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                        • Barbecueboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 18116

                          #132
                          Barney ain’t allowing any of that nonsense……..tire rule, lol.
                          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14310

                            #133
                            Originally posted by Finnfan25 View Post
                            Has there ever been a failed tire test to come back where a driver said "OK, I did it."?
                            I remember one, but I forgot who it was
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                            • kidrock
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 16409

                              #134
                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              Shouldnt the series impound the tire that the sample came from, to run more tests with a different lab?

                              At least, the driver could send a sample to another lab!
                              Yes yes and yes

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14310

                                #135
                                Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                                Shouldnt the series impound the tire that the sample came from, to run more tests with a different lab?

                                At least, the driver could send a sample to another lab!
                                The competitor should retain at least some of the tire in their custody.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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