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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14310

    #61
    Originally posted by chathamracefan View Post

    For a few businesses, they may be getting value commensurate with what they are spending by advertising on a race car vs some other means of ads. I imagine that is a fairly small # tho & the tax deduction merely provides them an avenue to participate in a sport they enjoy at a "discount" provided by the IRS.
    Now if you could write a team a check and get some of it back in cash, now that would be worthwhile...
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • Driver50x
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 241

      #62
      In simpler terms, for every $1000 you spend on advertising with a race team, you might save $100 to $200 on taxes. You are still paying the other $800 or so out of your pocket. Or your businesses’s pocket.

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      • 84wedge
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2020
        • 2088

        #63
        Originally posted by pierceFAN View Post

        baffoon
        It's spelled bufoon.
        Last edited by 84wedge; 12-12-2024, 02:49 PM.

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        • kidrocket1
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 113

          #64
          Welp...that got interesting, real quick!! Now we know.
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          • chopter33
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 167

            #65
            Holy moly.

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            • EvelB7
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 882

              #66
              Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

              Now if you could write a team a check and get some of it back in cash, now that would be worthwhile...
              I see someone actually knows how this works....

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              • Henry Every
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 613

                #67
                Originally posted by kidrocket1 View Post
                Welp...that got interesting, real quick!! Now we know.
                This isn't hard to believe with the drama that has been demonstrated in the past. You just can't argue with the very public history from that group. I will say I've never seen Bobby do any off track shenanigans, not saying it hasn't happened, but I'm not privy to it. I still remember the sister windmilling through the pits chasing some poor fellow, Wild West Shoot Out I think... I never was a Bobby fan, mainly because his driving style IMHO was somewhat disrespectful(slide n' park) but even that has improved with time, but I think he'd be better off if some of the "family" stayed home, or at least agreed to be seen and not heard. I'm thrilled he's learned how to finish a race with the RR quarter still on the car, he single handily disproved some aero theories in dlm about what parts you have to have on the car and still be fast.
                "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                • Highside Hustler25
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 12917

                  #68
                  ^
                  some poor fellow...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
                  8/13/16

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                  • blncfn57
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2013

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Henry Every View Post

                    This isn't hard to believe with the drama that has been demonstrated in the past. You just can't argue with the very public history from that group. I will say I've never seen Bobby do any off track shenanigans, not saying it hasn't happened, but I'm not privy to it. I still remember the sister windmilling through the pits chasing some poor fellow, Wild West Shoot Out I think... I never was a Bobby fan, mainly because his driving style IMHO was somewhat disrespectful(slide n' park) but even that has improved with time, but I think he'd be better off if some of the "family" stayed home, or at least agreed to be seen and not heard. I'm thrilled he's learned how to finish a race with the RR quarter still on the car, he single handily disproved some aero theories in dlm about what parts you have to have on the car and still be fast.
                    What is your point? Wanna know who knew the group real well? Jeff Hoker himself! This isn't new, he has been involved through alot of the incidents you all talk about. In fact, remember Mike Marlar being mad about Hoker flipping him off? Remember Jeff posting about the Tyler Erb incident? Remember Jeff posting more than once about the Davenport speedway deal? My point is not to say Jeff is a bad person, only that we all do and say things that cause others to judge us......right or wrong. Sounds like Jeff felt he was disrespected and decided to take his money elsewhere, I would prolly do the same. This is no more our business than RTJ supposedly getting caught watching porn.

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14310

                      #70
                      Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post

                      What is your point? Wanna know who knew the group real well? Jeff Hoker himself! This isn't new, he has been involved through alot of the incidents you all talk about. In fact, remember Mike Marlar being mad about Hoker flipping him off? Remember Jeff posting about the Tyler Erb incident? Remember Jeff posting more than once about the Davenport speedway deal? My point is not to say Jeff is a bad person, only that we all do and say things that cause others to judge us......right or wrong. Sounds like Jeff felt he was disrespected and decided to take his money elsewhere, I would prolly do the same. This is no more our business than RTJ supposedly getting caught watching porn.
                      When the characters themselves put the drama in the public domain, it kinda becomes the public's business.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • blncfn57
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2013

                        #71
                        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post

                        When the characters themselves put the drama in the public domain, it kinda becomes the public's business.
                        ok, so the RTJ post should be of our concern then?

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14310

                          #72
                          Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post

                          ok, so the RTJ post should be of our concern then?
                          Did RTJ post about it? Post was that these 2 things are not the same.
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • cjsracing
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 838

                            #73
                            Originally posted by foxfire2dirtracing View Post
                            ^^ and tax right off -( advertising)
                            when Bob Miller sold his coal mining businesses- he phased out of sponsorship of race teams. It was then coming out of his pocket instead of writing it off as a business exspense.
                            Hopefully the IRS doesn’t figure this out because the racing industry needs these sponsors.
                            reminds me of everyone commenting on how exspensive the Super Bowl commercials are: consumers burden the cost after final IRS revenues are completed.
                            Hope the IRS doesn't figure what out?

                            Advertising is a normal business expense. Whether that form of advertising is a tv commercial, billboard, sponsoring a racecar, it is all a legal business expense. Hell I have a client that spends more than $1 million a year on radio advertising.

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                            • Henry Every
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2023
                              • 613

                              #74
                              Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post

                              What is your point? Wanna know who knew the group real well? Jeff Hoker himself! This isn't new, he has been involved through alot of the incidents you all talk about. In fact, remember Mike Marlar being mad about Hoker flipping him off? Remember Jeff posting about the Tyler Erb incident? Remember Jeff posting more than once about the Davenport speedway deal? My point is not to say Jeff is a bad person, only that we all do and say things that cause others to judge us......right or wrong. Sounds like Jeff felt he was disrespected and decided to take his money elsewhere, I would prolly do the same. This is no more our business than RTJ supposedly getting caught watching porn.
                              My "first" point is that drama flows out of that team, always has, so hearing what happened is no big surprise. My "second" point was that IMHO Bobby has improved immensely as a driver and its a shame that family members keep bringing the wrong kind of attention to him. Thirdly, since you brought it up and I have no idea why, looking at (legal) porn, though sad, isn't in anyway tied to DLM racing, but running your mouth and losing one of your teams sponsors is directly related. I hope this clears things up for you, I hate to be misunderstood. Let me know if I can assist you further.
                              "In the Republic of Mediocrity, Genius is Dangerous." - Robert Green Ingersoll

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                              • Clayton_Wetters
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2019
                                • 1065

                                #75
                                Yeah, what he said^^
                                I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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