New rules idea question

[Josh Bayko]

Just find it so funny that the look of the big block dirt modified has changed so little in the last twenty plus years.

Big blocks have changed more than you think in the last twenty years.

[AJMcCool]

The problem with adding new rules is that they don’t enforce the ones they already have. It’s how we ended up here.

But Steve Francis was supposed to be the savior!

[Josh Bayko]

But Steve Francis was supposed to be the savior!

At the Firecracker back in 15 or16, 17 cars failed deck height after time trials. The deck height was 36”. They had their times disallowed and started heats from tail. They never checked deck height after time trials again and quietly raised decks to 39” the next year.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

At the Firecracker back in 15 or16, 17 cars failed deck height after time trials. The deck height was 36”. They had their times disallowed and started heats from tail. They never checked deck height after time trials again and quietly raised decks to 39” the next year.

That's exactly how we have come to where we are. It's been done over and over again.

[84wedge]

At the Firecracker back in 15 or16, 17 cars failed deck height after time trials. The deck height was 36”. They had their times disallowed and started heats from tail. They never checked deck height after time trials again and quietly raised decks to 39” the next year.

If everyone's cheating, nobody is cheating.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If everyone's cheating, nobody is cheating.

But everyone got cheated, because the car isn't even close to the same car, after a number of years passed

[kidrock]

I know at one time and could be the case now but, Promoters did not want to turn away cars because car counts were low and they were afraid to run off anymore cars. Catch 22 for them...

[427c.i.]

The funny part is that it was ruined the same way as last time.

Not quite. Back then there weren't body nose and parts manufacturers fighting for these types of bodies. Back then, the driver's owners knew it was out of hand and WELCOMED a change.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Not quite. Back then there weren't body nose and parts manufacturers fighting for these types of bodies. Back then, the driver's owners knew it was out of hand and WELCOMED a change.

True, but what I meant was it became an aero machine both times.

[Jim11h]

I asked this cause miss thr day when you showed up at world thinking you had a chance. That's totally gone now. I fully agree bodies place thats cheap and easy to fix. Crates are gonna save us all 🤣

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I asked this cause miss thr day when you showed up at world thinking you had a chance. That's totally gone now. I fully agree bodies place thats cheap and easy to fix. Crates are gonna save us all 🤣

Yes, a $10k engine with $4k performance, in a car that can handle 850 hp, is definitely the answer.

If you take 1000# of down force off a car, it definitely loses grip

[Jim11h]

And now a new tire. We keep fixing what really isn't broken

[ftfiowa]

gotta get more air under the cars to slow em down, also need cheaper shocks, maybe a restrictor plate on motors too.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

gotta get more air under the cars to slow em down, also need cheaper shocks, maybe a restrictor plate on motors too.

Pretty hard to mandate what air happens to get under the car. Now the top side, that can be done. I couldn't care less about shocks. Most shock costs are kinda voluntary. People jump from brand to brand to get a small valving tweak, that is really only necessary to help the suspension/aero compromise. Dampers are not really that complicated. Put them on an aero machine, the compromises get somewhat complicated, but not like they are made out to be. They are the biggest rip off in our sport.

[FlatTire]

The current LM races great on smaller tracks like FALS and Maquoketa last night because aero isn’t as big of a factor. Proves that large suspension changes aren’t needed to get racing better, just take aero advantage away.

Very few big tracks race good anyways. And yes aero matters on a quarter mile. Take the nose off your late model and find out what happens if you don't think aero matters on a 1/4 mile. You will have to jack all the rear brake ya got and stomp and steer and it won't be fast.