It's my understanding that when Lucas takes samples It's almost like a crime scene. Samples are taken while wearing sterile gloves to avoid contamination. 2 samples are taken with car owner or driver present. Samples are then put in sample bottles which are then sealed. Then the seal is signed by both parties and one sample is given to owner or driver and lucas takes the other. The seal isn't broken until the lab technician opens the seal for testing. Then the technician test a portion of the sample. What remains of the sample is returned to the sample container and resealed by the technician. All this to avoid any tampering with samples.
I've been told by people that where at the Dream that Dirt didn't handle things in the same fashion. Some guy got the sample no gloves or anything and just threw samples into a baggie and walked away. Also heard teams asked for their sample and were told you don't get one.
On another note was told that Lucas takes some kind of number off of the tire that the sample came from serial number maybe??? I Don't think Dirt did that either but I could be wrong. If this is correct Lucas seems to do it the right way. That would go long way to make next to impossibe for them to tamper with samples. I could see Dirt having a hard time convicing somebody that the samples tampered with switched ect...
I have know Idea if any of this info is factual I guess that's a disclaimer lol
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Really??? I missed that .......Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View PostA member on 4m posted it that he was geting paid.
Kind of sounds strange to say " bloomquist dq from the dream 2 years in a row, don't it?Last edited by Barbecueboy; 06-22-2016, 05:59 PM.
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The illegal chemical found in the tire samples is also found in italian dressing.
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Originally posted by Barbecueboy View PostWho in the heck said bloomer was getting paid for being light last year.........
A member on 4m posted it that he was geting paid.
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Who in the heck said bloomer was getting paid for being light last year.........
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Some people have a lot of money............both series better get their house in order as it pertains to tires, enforcement and how it's all handled.Originally posted by Hard rock candy View PostLawsuits cost lots of money. Don't see it happening.
Call the wrong guy wrong when he isn't and Eventually somebody is going to come after them.
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Lawsuits cost lots of money. Don't see it happening.Originally posted by Barbecueboy View PostAs it should be.........
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Some said Bloomer would get paid for the 2015 dream also, but all we are hearing a year later is more swine sewage out of his mouth.Originally posted by ClampedUp View PostAfter reading some various articles on the interweb it seems there are various levels of testing that can be done based on how much money they want to spend on the test.
This info was obtained by a driver who gave an interview who was accused of doctoring his tires by use of a "sniffer" and by the sounds of it he used Blue Ridge Labs out of North Carolina to send his own samples for testing and the driver said he paid for the more expensive test as it was more conclusive than the lower cost test. His independent test came back 100% clean.
He stated in the interview that he found a sheriffs deputy at the track and obtained an evidence bag from him and the deputy witnessed him removing a large chunk of the tire and sealed the bag in front of him so everything was done correctly.
I have a feeling this latest deal from WRG/WoO/UMP is going to open up a legal firestorm with some of the teams involved that have the means to take the series to task.
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I don't think so..here's why. Sam Driggers is one of the biggest puzzies that I know. He doesn't have the nut sack to play with lab results. I think that the Lucas guys had less to lose and believed the undetectable bs sold by the makers of the chemicals. Anyone who is close to racing know that racers cheat tires! Why is that so difficult for others to understand. They will do ANYTHING to win.Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View PostSomething fishy about these dqs.
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As it should be.........Originally posted by ClampedUp View PostAfter reading some various articles on the interweb it seems there are various levels of testing that can be done based on how much money they want to spend on the test.
This info was obtained by a driver who gave an interview who was accused of doctoring his tires by use of a "sniffer" and by the sounds of it he used Blue Ridge Labs out of North Carolina to send his own samples for testing and the driver said he paid for the more expensive test as it was more conclusive than the lower cost test. His independent test came back 100% clean.
He stated in the interview that he found a sheriffs deputy at the track and obtained an evidence bag from him and the deputy witnessed him removing a large chunk of the tire and sealed the bag in front of him so everything was done correctly.
I have a feeling this latest deal from WRG/WoO/UMP is going to open up a legal firestorm with some of the teams involved that have the means to take the series to task.
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After reading some various articles on the interweb it seems there are various levels of testing that can be done based on how much money they want to spend on the test.Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View PostClampedUp, they take 3 to 4 different samples for the tire around the tire. They don't just take it from 1 spot. Take a grooving iron and cut a groove out that's about an 1" to 1.5"s long.
This info was obtained by a driver who gave an interview who was accused of doctoring his tires by use of a "sniffer" and by the sounds of it he used Blue Ridge Labs out of North Carolina to send his own samples for testing and the driver said he paid for the more expensive test as it was more conclusive than the lower cost test. His independent test came back 100% clean.
He stated in the interview that he found a sheriffs deputy at the track and obtained an evidence bag from him and the deputy witnessed him removing a large chunk of the tire and sealed the bag in front of him so everything was done correctly.
I have a feeling this latest deal from WRG/WoO/UMP is going to open up a legal firestorm with some of the teams involved that have the means to take the series to task.
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Love and money will cause the most honest to be dishonest.......Originally posted by slmcrewchief99 View PostA team we run against at most all the regional races around here just got nailed. They appealed it. A second sample was sent and it came back hot also. NEVER thought they would ever try it. Just because you know someone very well and even be best friends with someone, still don't mean they won't cheat.
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A team we run against at most all the regional races around here just got nailed. They appealed it. A second sample was sent and it came back hot also. NEVER thought they would ever try it. Just because you know someone very well and even be best friends with someone, still don't mean they won't cheat.
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nobody outside of these teams knows what they are doing. Driver, Crew Chief and Tire guy are probably only ones who know what's really going on. I don't care how close somebody thinks they are to a certain team.
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