Final appeal

[Barbecueboy]

How do you know they haven't done any tire testing? I'm just curious

A friend .......that was there.

They may have at oak shade or a couple at the end........but I don't think so at them either.

[Barbecueboy]

Agreed. If it was just them two, I wouldn't bat an eye. They've been there, done that, literally.

Was told by someone who has been tested, that the lab that WoO uses isn't nearly as respected in that line of work as the one Lucas uses. And is under half the price, or at least was. Not that that necessarily means everything.

Dang c and b.........the guys have all but wrapped up the case against the fast five and you have to go and bring this up?????

Not a dang thing wrong with the way they are doing it and the lab they use to do it with.....Heinz 57 has spoken.

[Barbecueboy]

Them waivers, lol, they stop nothing. A good lawyer would have, has had, a field day with them.

Unless ump gets it right and has their stuff together to be indisputable..............WILL HAVE........just sayin.

[slmcrewchief99]

Guess I'll be part of the minority. I've said before that our team has never had a problem with any of the regional series that have checked us. I feel they did it as well as can be done at the track and have no problem with that part of the process. I will agree that part of the process needs to be tweaked but for the most part it is fine. If there was a problem with the process at the dream then ALL the tires from the 30+ samples would have came back dirty. Only 5 did and this is what we have. All 5 of those samples didn't meet the benchmark and were dq'd. Like it or not that was the results of the lab test. After the World, those guys can go right back to racing UMP/WoO like nothing ever happened. Those of us that have been checked and have passed won't have a problem with your return.....

[RW57]

Here is my problem with this tell them what was wrong with tire this is bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) saying it did not meet benchmark what the hell does that mean .Why all the secrecy if you know what's wrong lay it out in black and white.

[oldfart50]

They know what was wrong with the tires. They knew it while they were soaking them...

Here is my problem with this tell them what was wrong with tire this is bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) saying it did not meet benchmark what the hell does that mean .Why all the secrecy if you know what's wrong lay it out in black and white.

[oldfart50]

I did not know you were a supporter of Black Lives Matter. That explains everything...

It's nice that you bring up the black lives matter movement.........I guess everything is working just peachy for them too. How dare they shed light on being falsely accused, ridiculed and targeted by someone in authority that you are supposed to be able to trust. They should just suck it up and deal with it...........seems to be working fine , right?

[dirtdobber45]

I don't know that sending a piece of rubber that has already been tested once to another lab would make a difference after the first test was run.Maybe it's time for the owners to carve out two samples at the time ,handle them exactly the same with the evidence bags et al and send it off to another " independent lab" just for back up.If they both come back dirty........done deal.If they both have different results, Houston we have a problem,Sounds more and more like a drivers Union of sorts wouldn't be all that bad..........ORJUST RUN THE OPEN TIRES

I agree with ya BBQ. Why not run open tires? If they wanna soak em go ahead no one would have an advantage so we all win lol

[old fan]

because maybe they want racers stay in business you what major sanctioning has total open tire rule

[dirtdobber45]

Wheres the proof? Why cant we see a hard copy of the results? Like it was said before everybody normally might use that first appeal but rarely the second, there might be something to this. Or maybe like its been said a lower sentence. But it be nice if the public could see the results

[plunks7]

Woo and Ump make enough money to have a lot more officials to do tire testing before they race. The only way to get somebody these days is with DNA!!!! They all cheat in one form or another. I really don't think either of these 2 have a very good Tech guy to be honest. The only thing they seem to check is tires. WTF Run Open tires, anything goes for everybody.

[Vettemaker]

would be nice if lucas would do a tire test sometime in the near future

Lucas does random testing. I know that Bloomer, Landers, Francis, and Lanigan were tested at Portsmouth Forth of July weekend.

[NormP]

It's nice that you bring up the black lives matter movement.........I guess everything is working just peachy for them too.
How dare they shed light on being falsely accused, ridiculed and targeted by someone in authority that you are supposed to be able to trust.

They should just suck it up and deal with it...........seems to be working fine , right?

You're pretty good at making jokes. Because I know you can't be serious with all that black lives matter bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word).

[Umpdirt1]

You mind friend either can't f n read or don't want to believe that the driver registration is a binding contract n no I'm not a lawyer and I (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) sure know you aren't. But just so happens have a friend whose dad was a states attorney. I showed him the drivers registration, guess what. Drives have no recourse it's in f n black n white.

[Barbecueboy]

Guess I'll be part of the minority. I've said before that our team has never had a problem with any of the regional series that have checked us. I feel they did it as well as can be done at the track and have no problem with that part of the process. I will agree that part of the process needs to be tweaked but for the most part it is fine. If there was a problem with the process at the dream then ALL the tires from the 30+ samples would have came back dirty. Only 5 did and this is what we have. All 5 of those samples didn't meet the benchmark and were dq'd. Like it or not that was the results of the lab test. After the World, those guys can go right back to racing UMP/WoO like nothing ever happened. Those of us that have been checked and have passed won't have a problem with your return.....

OH no you don't.........I'm the minority in the room chief........everybody else here knows for 100% certain they are all cheaters.

Or at least the rrrrrreeeeeeaaaaaaalllllll smart ones do..........and who you kidding, y'all are all cheatin up your stuff like a bunch of mofos too......surely you've read about it.🤘