Final appeal

[hausman]

BBQ - go play with yourself..

[Barbecueboy]

You guys realize that these chemicals are, for the lack of a better word, cooked into the tire? This is t some spray on Magic tire dope. Not to mention that it has been said that something is missing from the 5 tires that were deemed illegal. What do you suppose Sam could have on his hands to make a chemical disappear from a tires? I would follow along if there was a chemical found on them that shouldn't be, but there wasn't, there was something missing. You don't spill something on a tire and make part of the tires chemical makeup disappear Maybe they all thought they were good to go since they wouldn't find anything "added" idk.

So there was something missing from all 5 tires you say??????

Strange.......I don't recall hearing it or remember reading it that way.......but I'm sure I'm wrong and you have the story correct.

So since it's only the baked in stuff that the testing gets, everybody is cool to go back to washing their tires and sheet metal with whatever can be rinsed off in the pits with a garden hose......should be cool with everybody involved I would think.

thanks for schooling us on that, I really had no idea the testing had become that accurate and are now targeting the baked goods only.

Well hell man, why have you been keeping it a secret........if you knew that the whole time I would have given up the fight for accuracy months ago.

All the bastards are guilty as sin after your revelation.........no doubt about it.

[hausman]

BBQ - here's my point: Apply the golden rule when you post. We all have points of view and most of us love LM Racing. Opinions matter - all of ours. It's OK to disagree but don't trash everyone's view and be a jerk about it..get it?

[Barbecueboy]

So how are tires tested so that a conspiracy doesn't become a result?

Let's just trust them......like everybody does the testing results.

[Barbecueboy]

checking them at the track would be great but then somebody would cry after they were caught because it wasn't sent to a lab. lol

K. Rumley had a pic on twitter of the same piece of equipment(spectrometer) they use at the labs and it was for sale on ebay for I think $5000. He was hinting at each series having their own with them at each event.

Some crafty owners will..........

[Barbecueboy]

If tires could be tested at the track right after race, and multiple teams see the test, its better than what we have now...

Having an experienced shop class look at them is better than what we have now......

[Barbecueboy]

BBQ - go play with yourself..

But I'm having so much fun playing with you..........it wouldn't be the same.

[Bubstr]

As it has been stated if ever tom d1ck and harry have been in contact with that tire before a team gets them how does the team know what has been done to that tire? Are teams suppose to take samples and send them off before they use that tire? Or are teams going to have to buy their on spectrometer and test them theirselves before they race them? That would be ignorance. And the cost...wow no little team would survive

It just might be prudent to buy your tires from a trusted source to cut expenses then or you could take two samples at the time of purchase, seal them, giving one to the distributor in case he wants to appeal the testing if you got caught with a doped tire. There is your A B A litmus test. It's even cheap if you never get caught. It could be very expensive for the distributor if they where sued for lost potential earnings, but do you believe a distributor would sell doped tires.

This still wouldn't change the rule or enforcement.You run a cheated tire you get penalized. The Series is the enforcer, not the tire company.

[old fan]

bbq - go play with yourself..

got a put a bone around his neck for a dog will play him poor puppy

[Barbecueboy]

BBQ - here's my point: Apply the golden rule when you post. We all have points of view and most of us love LM Racing. Opinions matter - all of ours. It's OK to disagree but don't trash everyone's view and be a jerk about it..get it?

If by everyone you mean oldfart50......huskerskirt.....mister 57.....and umpskirt then I'm sorry , but that will never happen unless it's a face to face meeting with a handshake and understanding or a rasslin match in the pits.

They have been the most vocal with me and my stance on this subject , I've done nothing more than reciprocate..............I'm just a bigger dik about it......sorry, that's my nature.......I get jumped on , I jump back.

And before you ask, yes.....I've been punched plenty of times in my life for it.

I completely understand what you are saying , but I think if you really look and are honest..........I'm only a dik to a very small handful of people on 4m......and more times than not , they are in that group above.

[DarrellGoode]

Any news from the Appeal?

[Barbecueboy]

It just might be prudent to buy your tires from a trusted source to cut expenses then or you could take two samples at the time of purchase, seal them, giving one to the distributor in case he wants to appeal the testing if you got caught with a doped tire. There is your A B A litmus test. It's even cheap if you never get caught. It could be very expensive for the distributor if they where sued for lost potential earnings, but do you believe a distributor would sell doped tires.

This still wouldn't change the rule or enforcement.You run a cheated tire you get penalized. The Series is the enforcer, not the tire company.

That's a pretty good idea bubster.........I don't believe any distributor would sell doped or tainted tires on purpose fwiw.

I also didn't believe a tire company would send the wrong benchmark to a lab either........but it happened.....by mistake.

The fact that people are thinking about it and talking about it like you just did is exactly what needs to occur......

[Barbecueboy]

got a put a bone around his neck for a dog will play him poor puppy

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[dirtdobber45]

It just might be prudent to buy your tires from a trusted source to cut expenses then or you could take two samples at the time of purchase, seal them, giving one to the distributor in case he wants to appeal the testing if you got caught with a doped tire. There is your A B A litmus test. It's even cheap if you never get caught. It could be very expensive for the distributor if they where sued for lost potential earnings, but do you believe a distributor would sell doped tires.This still wouldn't change the rule or enforcement.You run a cheated tire you get penalized. The Series is the enforcer, not the tire company.

As usual youve missed the point....let me ask ya something...Do you know for certain how those tires get from Hoosier to the dealer to the team? I know for a fact that my local dealer gets them from UPS. And that was the point I was making. You dont know how many people have touched(or spilled something on it) that one tire before that team gets it. The only guarantee way that everybody can be 'innocent' before the team gets it is to wrap that tire up and send it in a sealed plastic box. Then its all on the team.

[dirtdobber45]

#sidewalkslivesmatter

Youve gota stop my sides are hurting LMFAO LMFAO!!!!