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  • perfconn
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3573

    #106
    It works fine.All my engines are drysump and I use the wide body pressure section in all of them.More volume than the m55hv has and never any problems even with honda journals and 283 mains

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    • CNC BLOCKS
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 595

      #107
      Originally posted by perfconn View Post
      It works fine.All my engines are drysump and I use the wide body pressure section in all of them.More volume than the m55hv has and never any problems even with honda journals and 283 mains
      You don't run any oil coolers??? Or valve cover sprayers??

      Last edited by CNC BLOCKS; 12-31-2013, 11:22 PM.

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      • Dirts4Racing
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 195

        #108
        Omg cnc, i i i i i i me me me me me i i i me me me me. Your head must be super large with such an ego. No one likes a bragger. By the way i dont build motors i race with them and how many dirt track champioinships do you have? Apples and oranges. You sir and i say " sir" loosely you need to go back to your shop and let us less educated discuss these things. You head must be bursting with knowledge. I hope to get my towel sometime this week.

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        • oldgold
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 207

          #109
          my question is of a pure stock engine failure had .002 rods and.0025 on mains and i think i pumped all of the oil to the top .i spun bearings and was using a big block pump. would i have been better off to use a std stock pump with these clearances?remember pure stock stock everything and 410 lift cam no domes or forged allowed thanks

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          • CNC BLOCKS
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 595

            #110
            Originally posted by Dirts4Racing View Post
            Omg cnc, i i i i i i me me me me me i i i me me me me. Your head must be super large with such an ego. No one likes a bragger. By the way i dont build motors i race with them and how many dirt track champioinships do you have? Apples and oranges. You sir and i say " sir" loosely you need to go back to your shop and let us less educated discuss these things. You head must be bursting with knowledge. I hope to get my towel sometime this week.
            Before the local track went to asphalt It was clay track and I did have championship engines back them !! Any other questions???

            been doing this for many years now I can say been there done that. I deal with engine builders and other machine shops all over.

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            • perfconn
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3573

              #111
              Oldgold,
              You don't need a bb chevy oilpump in a sb chevy.While that is probably what caused your problem it is easy to not have it happen again.You can never have too much oilpump,the problem is you have to get the oil back to the oilpan.The rear oil drainback hole has to be enlarged quite a bit.Proper block preparation is the secret.

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              • ford396
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 102

                #112
                Perfconn: I would caution oldgold or anyone else running in a purestock type of applicaton that too big of an oil pump places a lot of stress on distributor and camshaft gear. Very possible to get premature wear due to this as well as inconsistent ignition timing.

                You are entitled to your opinion and I will respect it, but I disagree with you that you can have too large of an oil pump.

                Bob

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                • perfconn
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3573

                  #113
                  Bob,
                  I agree with you 100%.Thats the reason I told him a bb chevy pump was not necessary and was probably what caused his bearing problems.You can never get rid of spark scatter in a wetsump engine unless you use a crank trigger.His problem could also have been caused by a bad oilpan design.Many years ago back in my super stock drag racing days,I had a wetsump engine losing oil pressure at the end of the track when I hit the brakes.I solved the problem by simply puting a corvette oilpan on that had the proper trapdoors.

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                  • Dirts4Racing
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 195

                    #114
                    Originally posted by CNC BLOCKS View Post
                    Before the local track went to asphalt It was clay track and I did have championship engines back them !! Any other questions???

                    been doing this for many years now I can say been there done that. I deal with engine builders and other machine shops all over.
                    OK you build motors. I get that. You think you are the only one that does? My question was how many Championships do you have DRIVING. I would assume NONE. You ask how many motors people have built, like that is the only thing that goes into a race car. If everyone was a big engine builder you would be out of business. Take note how there are two guys that may not agree on here but have the ability to agree to disagree. You may have the last word as always.

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                    • CNC BLOCKS
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 595

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Dirts4Racing View Post
                      OK you build motors. I get that. You think you are the only one that does? My question was how many Championships do you have DRIVING. I would assume NONE. You ask how many motors people have built, like that is the only thing that goes into a race car. If everyone was a big engine builder you would be out of business. Take note how there are two guys that may not agree on here but have the ability to agree to disagree. You may have the last word as always.
                      No I don't drive, I am not the only engine builder out there that's for sure I deal with a lot of good engine builder all over the world.

                      I do have an impeccable record for engines I have built for my customers, World records??? I am very well known out there as my shop is set up to blue print blue print blocks period !!! Good honing equipment.

                      Not every engines builder has a shop like mine as I have 2 shops though with top of the line equipment and it has paid off!!!

                      I do have good bragging rights and have seen what works and what does not work when it comes to building engines.

                      Not many shops out there are set up to Blue Print cam tunnels ETC. Most shops just bore cylinders to where the cylinders are located cause they have no way to blue print bore them. Machining lifter bores with fixtures bolting 5 pieces together in not very accurate ETC.

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                      • Rodz
                        Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 34

                        #116
                        Carl I have no reason to doubt your abilities, but you really need to put a sock in it.
                        www.avengerraceengines.com

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                        • CNC BLOCKS
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 595

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Rodz View Post
                          Carl I have no reason to doubt your abilities, but you really need to put a sock in it.
                          Why would any body doubt my abilities?? I can back up what I say. I have a lot of followers believe me, At my shops I do what a lot of other shops can't do no big deal so when I posts pics ETC its not bragging its what I offer at my shops and I am proud of what I do. My prices are hard to beat!!!

                          I am not a bolt on boy that buys used parts and assembles them and being an engines assembler VS and engines builder who machines everything is house there is a big difference!!!

                          If you don't like what I post don't be a baby put me on your ignore list and you wont have nothing to cry about!!!

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                          • Dirts4Racing
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 195

                            #118
                            I dont know how I missed this but thanks stockcar5. Check this out and it is all you need to know. http://www.cncblockne.com/

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                            • CNC BLOCKS
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 595

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Dirts4Racing View Post
                              I dont know how I missed this but thanks stockcar5. Check this out and it is all you need to know. http://www.cncblockne.com/
                              There is a reason John Supino has been thrown of about every website out there LOL. Cause he worked for World and I have had to many issues with World blocks so he wrote a blog as you can see he does not get along with any one the sells Dart in this thread he is JOHN@BMP


                              I should have my website site done in a few days as I will post so you can say I'm bragging LOL.

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                              • oldgold
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 207

                                #120
                                [QUOTE=ford396;1759000]Perfconn: I would caution oldgold or anyone else running in a purestock type of applicaton that too big of an oil pump places a lot of stress on distributor and camshaft gear. Very possible to get premature wear due to this as well as inconsistent ignition timing.

                                You are entitled to your opinion and I will respect it, but I disagree with you that you can have too large of an oil pump.

                                Bob[/QUOTE i have always thought that pressure and volumn were what you needed to prevent spun bearings and have never been happy with 35-45 lbs at racing rpms and oil lite on with cautions and i have always heard big block pumps have a steadier oil pressure due to 12 teeth on the gear. please enlighten me. our max rpms are 6200 on hydraulic lifters.

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