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  • skids
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1003

    #106
    Originally posted by Busheetreats
    So now we don't take the bible literally? Fact is according to the Bible Heaven is hotter than Hell using Scientific math.
    First of all, I have never said I am a "literalist" where the Bible is concerned.

    Secondly, if I say "I shall go to the grocery store." Are you going to call me a liar if I don't go within "X" amount of time? If you would read the passage you sited, it is obvious it is a prophecy. Read it within the context it is.

    Thirdly, why get all defensive? I asked you some simple questions. They are opinion answers of how YOU believe. Why cant' you just answer them?

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #107
      Originally posted by skids View Post
      Then why are there still apes???
      Maybe because Bushee has not been neutered????

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #108
        Originally posted by Busheetreats
        Then why should we take anything in the Bible at face value. Prophecy or not, the information is there to decipher. I'm not getting defensive, it's clear that you don't like it when science doesn't go your way. Be sure to kill anyone you know that's worked on a Sunday.
        You're not answering skids questions because you can not.

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        • LITE-INN
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 12473

          #109
          Originally posted by Busheetreats
          I have answered them pretty well. The problem you have is that once answered, you scream GOD, JESUS, BIBLE when trying to rationalize what's happened. http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/is_jesus_fiction/
          you will find when you die bring some ice cubes lol

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          • skids
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1003

            #110
            Originally posted by Busheetreats
            Then why should we take anything in the Bible at face value. Prophecy or not, the information is there to decipher. I'm not getting defensive, it's clear that you don't like it when science doesn't go your way. Be sure to kill anyone you know that's worked on a Sunday.
            These things must be taken in the context of the entire Bible. Many things (laws) in the Old Testament are no longer valid under the new covenant. Jesus addressed working on the Sabbath when the Pharisees were trying to trick him into condemning a man for picking grain to eat on the Sabbath. God is concerned with our HEART more so, than our actions on the Sabbath.

            I have yet to see where science "got in my way" where I didn't address your point. I think it is you refusing to address the points and counterpoints I make.

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            • skids
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1003

              #111
              Originally posted by Busheetreats
              If you follow Jesus, then you must hate your family Luke 14:26New International Version (©1984) "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple. "If you "Hate", then you are a murderer 1 John 3:15 New International Version (©1984) "Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him. "If you are a Muderer, then you are going to hell Revelations 21:8 New International Version (©1984) "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
              This is an example where Jesus is not speaking literally. He simply means we are to love him more so than our family. NOBODY should push Christ out of first place in our lives. Does this mean we aren't to love others? Absolutely not. He addresses that as well. It's all about context.

              As for murders going to hell, murderers, just as any other sinner, will end up in hell IF, I repeat IF, they do not repent of their sin and accept Christ's forgiveness (which is free to ALL who accept it). Again, CONTEXT. The whole Bible is pointed toward the salvation Christ offers. Any sin that someone confesses and asks forgiveness for while living for Christ will be forgiven. The wages of sin (unforgiven) is death.

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              • skids
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1003

                #112
                Originally posted by Busheetreats
                I have answered them pretty well. The problem you have is that once answered, you scream GOD, JESUS, BIBLE when trying to rationalize what's happened. http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/is_jesus_fiction/
                Point out where I screamed these things. I have been nothing but respectful and rational with you. I simply answered your questions or made a counterpoint. What's wrong with that?

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                • skids
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1003

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Busheetreats
                  I have answered them pretty well. The problem you have is that once answered, you scream GOD, JESUS, BIBLE when trying to rationalize what's happened. http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/is_jesus_fiction/
                  Is there actual historical evidence to prove the existence of Jesus Christ? Did ancient historians believe in the actual person of Jesus Christ? Can historical evidence about Jesus Christ’s existence be believed?

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                  • LITE-INN
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 12473

                    #114
                    he also says busheetreat will rot in he11

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                    • skids
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1003

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Busheetreats
                      Science got in the way when I used the Bible that now you refute the passages, to prove heaven is hotter than hell.
                      Again, I don't think your argument made any sense to anyone but you.


                      Science also proves that there is no record of a flood.
                      Really? Here are some scientists who disagree.

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                      If Jesus is real, ask him to appear. He says he will do anything you ask of him, so ask him to appear. He doesn't have to be "in the flesh", but could be an apparition or ghost. Take some pictures and get back at us.
                      I honestly think he could appear to you, personally, and you would find a way to explain it away.

                      Jesus said to "doubting" Thomas...."Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed."

                      I don't need to see to believe.

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                      • skids
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1003

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Busheetreats
                        Why does God allow those little boys to get raped by the same men that preach his love?
                        There is also a fallen angel by the name of Satan who comes to steal, kill and destroy. All can fall into Satan's snares and sin.

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                        • skids
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1003

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Busheetreats
                          Wondering if you entered your daughter into slavery.
                          How many times will you ignore my explanations of old and New Testament differences and the New Covenant???

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                          • skids
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1003

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Busheetreats
                            Oh so you don't take THAT version. Ok, I get it now. It works for you so run with it.
                            What "version"?

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                            • skids
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 1003

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Busheetreats
                              I asked you to ask him to come to you, appear. Take photos, if he is real and is what he says he is, he will come to you. If he came to me and appeared, I would take his word for it, but obviously that's not going to happen because Jesus was also God, but the son of god, and wouldn't let a disciple bury his Dad because he was his dad.Now read this following photo very slowly. I know you can do it buddy!
                              The first jump is mute. Where does it say that heaven receives radiation from the sun?

                              In fact, the Bible says there is NO sunlight needed in heaven.

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                              • LITE-INN
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 12473

                                #120
                                you better go back to vacation bible school

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