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Seriously? You link to a blog? Give me some proof. I know of no Greek Mythology that sites Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Please point me to it so I may be educated.Originally posted by Busheetreats
On another note, Greek Mythology is just that...MYTHOLOGY. Emphasis on MYTH.
The Bible, on the other hand, is verifiable TRUTH. There is historical record after historical record of Biblical accuracies. You just don't choose to look for them or believe them.
All one needs to do is look at the recorded prophesies that were foretold hundreds of years in advance that came true, to the letter. This did not happen by chance. There is written record of Biblical happenings in OTHER documents besides the Bible, that confirm their happening.
Food for thought (admittedly copy and pasted from one of the many sites you refuse to seek out):
If you still happen to be unconvinced that the baby born in Bethlehem 2000 years ago was anything more than just an ordinary human baby, let me challenge you with a few of “the odds†in that regard.
To begin with, did you know that the Old Testament prophet Micah, writing circa 700 B.C., out of the hundreds and hundreds of cities in the scores and scores of nations in existence all over the world even in those days, designated Bethlehem of Judea as the birthplace of the Messiah (Micah 5:2)?
And that at about the same time, Isaiah (7:14) said that the Christ would be born of a virgin?
Or that a prophecy made in 1012 B.C. specified that the Messiah's hands and feet would eventually be pierced--a clear reference to death by crucifixion--800 years before the Romans ever even instituted crucifixion as a form of capital punishment!
Malachi 3:1, penned in about 425 B.C., specified that the Messiah would be contemporary with the temple in Jerusalem--a temple that was destroyed in 70 A.D. and has never been rebuilt.
Well, if all this impresses you even a little bit, you ought to go compare Zechariah 11:11-13 (written over 500 years before Christ) to Matthew 27:3-10 (written some 25-30 years after Christ). Only coincidence?
A number of years ago, Peter W. Stoner and Robert C. Newman wrote a book entitled Science Speaks. The book was based on the science of probability and vouched for by the American Scientific Affiliation. It set out the odds of any one man in all of history fulfilling even only eight of the 60 major prophecies (and 270 ramifications) fulfilled by the life of Christ.
The probability that Jesus of Nazareth could have fulfilled even eight such prophecies would be only 1 in 1017. That's 1 in 100, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000.
Stoner claims that that many silver dollars would be enough to cover the face of the entire state of Texas two feet deep. Now I've been to Texas. I've driven for days to get across Texas. Texas is a very big state. Who in his right mind would suppose that a blindfolded man, heading out of Dallas by foot in any direction, would be able, on his very first attempt, to pick up one specifically marked silver dollar out of 100, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000?
One March several years ago I received a paper from United States Senate Chaplain Richard Halverson. In it he wrote:
"The fact is, the birth, crucifixion, and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ are celebrated worldwide by folk of every race, language, and color, every year. And believing in Jesus, they have been delivered from the most evil, disastrous, frustrating, debilitating habits and life forms possible. The real problem with Jesus Christ is not that folk can't believe in Him--but that they won't believe in Him."Last edited by skids; 01-28-2013, 10:44 AM.Comment
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Nice substantive rebuttal. Typical liberal response. Whatever you do, don't address my evidence, which is contrary to your belief. Why can't you address the fact that the prophesies sited were given way before they were fulfilled and are well documented as being fulfilled (to the letter)? Care to post some examples of science disproving the Bible? While I don't doubt you can find a source that would claim such, I'd like a chance to debate it with you.Originally posted by BusheetreatsComment
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Especially when they get liberal funding to lie. But if you want to believe in corrupted man made philosophies, go for it. Makes you look really smart. NOT!Originally posted by BusheetreatsComment
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And BT, you'll find that more and more these days, science is PROVING the Bible correct, not the other way around... Look it up, you'll be amazed...Comment
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For bt
Is there historical and scientific proof of Jesus?
It is interesting that when people seek historic and scientific proof of Jesus, they immediately discount the Bible as a reliable source.
If we look at the Bible simply as a historic document, it should be among the most reliable on record compared with others.
Historians routinely cite Herodotus as a key source of information. He wrote from 488 B.C. to 428 B.C. and the earliest copy of his work comes from 900 A.D. (1,300 years later). There are only eight known copies of his work.
By contrast, the New Testament of the Bible (with all its information about Jesus) was written between 40 A.D. and 100 A.D. The earliest known copy is from 130 A.D. and there are 5,000 known copies in Greek, 10,000 in Latin and 9,300 in other languages.
Still, to put to rest the notion that there is no historic and scientific proof of Jesus outside the Bible, we may look to Jewish historian Flavius Josephus and to Roman historian Carius Cornelius Tacitus - both well known and accepted.
Josephus, in the book Jewish Antiquities" wrote:
"At that time lived Jesus, a wise man, if he may be called a man; for he performed many wonderful works. He was a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. . . .And when Pilate, at the instigation of the chief men among us, had condemned him to the cross, they who before had conceived an affection for him did not cease to adhere to him. For on the third day he appeared to them alive again, the divine prophets having foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him. And the sect of the Christians, so called from him, subsists at this time" (Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 3, Section 1).
Tacitus, in writing about accusations that Nero burned the city of Rome and blamed it on Christians, said the following:
". . .Nero procured others to be accused, and inflicted exquisite punishment upon those people, who were in abhorrence for their crimes, and were commonly known by the name of Christians. They had their denomination from Christus (Christ, dm.), who in the reign of Tibertius was put to death as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate. . . .At first they were only apprehended who confessed themselves of that sect; afterwards a vast multitude discovered by them, all of which were condemned, not so much for the crime of burning the city, as for their enmity to mankind. . . ." (Tacitus, Annals, 15, 44).Comment
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showing your stupidity againComment
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Could you please site examples? And please do what you can to refute my previous post about the odds of the prophecies coming true.Originally posted by BusheetreatsComment
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here you go bushee
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert EinsteinComment
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so you are an atheist next questionComment
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and your not Einstien mushroom head lmaoComment
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brillaant from new your times or is that riverfront timesComment
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Jesus will only appear in the flesh upon his 2nd coming.Originally posted by Busheetreats
Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
—Matthew 24:23-31
Jesus WILL be seen by ALL! It will be a glorious day for some and the worst day in the lives of many, as they realize they had the truth and the gift of Jesus Christ presented to them and they failed to believe it and accept it.Comment
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Just because the wives of Cain and Abel are not explained, does not mean they did not exist.Originally posted by Busheetreats
There are all kinds of miracles and "things that can't happen" recorded in the Bible.A guy can't survive in the belly of a fish.
Note, the Biblical Hebrew word for “circle†(חוג—chuwg) can also mean “round†or “sphere.â€The Bible claims the world is flat (a circle is not the same as a sphere).
Why would circle not be the same as sphere in this context? Do you not think this could be referring to the circular shape of the horizon at sun set or sunrise? There are many explanations for this.
Can a plant survive for a day without sunlight? Yes. Can a plant grow under a light that isn't from the sun? Yes. Light was the first thing created by God.According to Genesis, there were plants before there was sunlight;
We don't KNOW anything about "evolution". It is a THEORY. It is unproven. Site me ONE instance where there is proof of one animal "evolving" from another animal. There is a difference between a particular animal evolving (changing/adapting) within itself and a different animal evolving from a completely different one over time.Genesis lists grasses and fruit trees in creation, but we know these didn't arise until fairly late in plant evolution; birds were allegedly "created" before land animals (but we know they evolved from theropod dinosaurs).
Snakes and donkeys can't talk, there aren't magic trees, Bats aren't birds and hares don't chew cud.
As for the donkey....it says "the Lord opened the donkey's mouth". Again, the issue is that you refuse to believe in God and thus, won't believe the things he does and/or has done.
Not sure what you're getting at with the "magic tree" and "Bats aren't birds" etc.Last edited by skids; 02-04-2013, 11:04 AM.Comment
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