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  • ss12
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3730

    #91
    Wal-mart privatize your school



    Wal-mart wants your kids to know communism is good.
    Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #92
      I believe the far left alternet.org would like for you to actually believe that and much more nonsense and other crap like: Noam Chomsky: Can Civilization Survive Capitalism?

      You read and believe that trash if you wish, but I'll take it for what I beleive it is and that is nothing more than a garbage site.

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      • LITE-INN
        Banned
        • Feb 2008
        • 12473

        #93
        come onss 12 you cando better than that

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        • balljoint
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1774

          #94
          3 largest flour mills in u.s. just merged. Not good.

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          • ss12
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3730

            #95
            Originally posted by balljoint View Post
            3 largest flour mills in u.s. just merged. Not good.
            Balljoint can you give us somemore information?
            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 12473

              #96
              me big dummy found it wow

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              • ss12
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 3730

                #97
                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                I believe the far left alternet.org would like for you to actually believe that and much more nonsense and other crap like: Noam Chomsky: Can Civilization Survive Capitalism?

                You read and believe that trash if you wish, but I'll take it for what I beleive it is and that is nothing more than a garbage site.
                Amazing a couple of months ago you thought this was a good sorce of unbias media. Look thiis man up and see what you think of him. Peter Dreier.
                Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                • LITE-INN
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 12473

                  #98
                  Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                  Amazing a couple of months ago you thought this was a good sorce of unbias media. Look thiis man up and see what you think of him. Peter Dreier.
                  Ph.D, University of Chicago, 1977.

                  Democratic Socialists of America Urban and Community Commission lil bio of p d

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                  • skids
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1003

                    #99
                    Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                    http://www.alternet.org/education/wh...hool-reform-la

                    Wal-mart wants your kids to know communism is good.
                    What part of that article in any way implies that the Waltons are in favor of communism? They are trying to get a capitalistic based system started in education. Heaven forbid that there be a free market system in education where the good schools survive and the poor schools don't, based on their merits as EDUCATORS. Instead, let's continue to throw money down the rat hole by giving piss poor schools more and more (tax payer) money and see NO improvement!




                    This has been around forever, but I think we need a refresher. A little reminder of why the liberal agenda will not, and never has worked.

                    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

                    The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

                    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

                    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
                    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

                    As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

                    To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

                    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

                    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

                    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

                    4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

                    5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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                    • Bubstr
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3734

                      #100
                      Why some can't see the forest for the trees, is beyond me. All the foreign good you see are all about corporate profits. they find it no problem to sell them to you because you are greedy also. This has the perfect scenario for fraud. A greedy person and something too good to be true.

                      This and several other things, like tax law, illegal immigration, anti union, increased green card workers, demolition of monopoly laws, discarding Glass Stegal, (Banking laws) and not regulating Trading even with the laws we have. It's about corporate profits.

                      I'm not against anyone making money. I'd like to see everyone make as much as they can. The trouble with corporate profits, isn't that they make too much, it's about who they make them from. That would be their own employees. When they take money from the employee, there is no transaction to pay tax on. This leaves someone else the bill for taxes. Who pays that? Of Course the employee. You and me pay the tax. We either pay a little more or do with out some services. The worst part is the disparity between corporate profits and working wages. See link. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...conomy/273687/ Ok you may say what does this really mean. Corporations are supposed to make money. Yes they are, but if they don't reinvest or pay tax the money stops circulating in the economy. Circulation of money is more important than how much money there is. There was every bit as much money during the great depression as there was during the economic boom right before it. It just stopped making the rounds to the poor and middle class. It's called constriction, if your into economics.. Getting back to the problem today, all the things I mentioned above are about a cheap and abundant source of labor and removing anything that would effect that negatively, like Unions or Socialists or Communists. By the way there has never been a true Socialist or Communist Government. They have always been a totalitarian anarchy and labeled as communist.

                      Why is cheap abundant labor good for corporations? It lowers the wages threw out the whole wage scale, making more profit. It's hard to ask for a raise when there are ten out of work people, waiting to take your place. Why is it bad for the general public? It creates large unemployment and under employment, which makes a lot of people dependent on the government. This creates a bill that is paid for by taxes. This bill is not paid by the Corps. that reinvest in China and defer profits to the Caymans to avoid tax. It also does not circulate money.

                      So what is the fix? That is the hard part. To get Congressmen to vote against their benefactors is going to be tough. I said benefactor and for the guy that said we should have Wallmart run this country, we already do. them and a lot of other big corporate campaign donors. You reinstate Glass stegal, tax everyone that does business here the same, allow only tax deductions for improvements or investments in this country and pesue Cayman Island or other foreign deposits to evade tax as tax evasion as it should be. Enforce immigration laws. Enforce SEC regulations and prosecute them.

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #101
                        If the Unions are the bad guys, ask why this Country was it's most prosperous for the most people during the hay day of the union during the 50s 60s and now at is smallest membership since the turn of the century, we have hard times? I suggest the union worker is not making too much, the non union worker has been left behind. On top of that the union lobby is the only lobby the average middle class person has and they are out numbered 5 to 1. If it was not for the Union Lobby asking government to tax the rich, thus starting the circulation of money, we may well still be in the great depression. That tax ran up to 98% of taxable income. Yes Higher than a woodpeckers hole but they wasn't making any real money anyway and it got money to circulate.

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #102
                          At one time in this country, there were few workplace safety laws, few restraints on employers, and incredibly exploitive working conditions that ranged from slavery, to share cropping, to putting children in dangerous working conditions. Unions, to their everlasting credit, helped play an important role in leveling the playing field for workers.

                          However, as the laws changed, there was less and less need for unions. Because of that, union membership shrank. In response, the unions became more explicitly involved in politics. Over time, they managed to co-opt the Democratic Party, pull their strings, and rewrite our labor laws in their favor.

                          As Lord Acton noted, “Power tends to corrupt,” and that has certainly been true for the unions. Unions have become selfish, extremely greedy, and even thuggish in their never-ending quest to take in as much as they can for themselves, at the expense of everyone else who crosses their path.

                          That’s why today, unions have changed from organizations that “look out for the little guy” into the largest, most rapacious special interest group in the entire country. Where unions go, disaster usually follows. Just to name a few examples:

                          1) Unions are severely damaging whole industries: How is it that GM and Chrysler got into such lousy shape that they had to be bailed out? There’s a simple answer: The unions. The massive pensions the car companies paid out raised their costs so much that they were limited to building more expensive cars to try to get their money back. They couldn’t even do a great job of building those cars because utterly ridiculous union rules prevented them from using their labor efficiently. America created the automobile industry, but American unions are strangling it to death. Unions also wrecked the steel and textile industries and have helped drive manufacturing jobs overseas. They’re crippling the airline industry and, of course, we can’t forget that…

                          2) Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it’s the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and….there’s no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated.

                          However, the real problem with our education system in this country is the teachers’ unions. They do everything possible to prevent schools not only from firing lousy teachers, but also from rewarding talented teachers. Merit pay? The unions hate it. Private schools? Even though everyone knows they deliver a better education than our public schools, unions fight to keep as many kids as possible locked in failing public schools. In Wisconsin, we’ve had whole schools shutting down so that lazy teachers can waste their time protesting on the taxpayers’ dime. Want to improve education in this country? Then you’ve got to take on the teachers’ unions.

                          3) Unions are costing you billions of tax dollars: Let’s put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn’t be allowed to unionize. Period.

                          Why?

                          Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests.

                          It’s obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Democratic Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Democrats try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected.

                          In other words, the Democratic Party and the unions are engaged in an open conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. There’s no way that the American people should allow that to continue.

                          4) Unions are fundamentally anti-democratic : How in the world did we get to the point where people can be forced to join a union just to get a job at certain places? Then, after they’re dragooned into the union, they have no choice other than to pay dues that are used for political activities which the unwilling dues-paying member may oppose.

                          Add to that the fact that the Democrats and the government unions collaborate to subvert democracy at the expense of the taxpayer and it’s not a pretty picture. Worse yet, unions have gotten so voracious that they even want to do away with the secret ballot, via card check, so they can openly bully people into joining unions. The way unions behave in this country is undemocratic, un-American, and it should trouble anyone who cares about freedom and individual rights.

                          5) Government unions are bankrupting cities and states: Government unions have bled billions from taxpayers nationally, but the damage they’re doing on the local level is even worse. We have cities and states all across the country that are so behind on their bills that there have been genuine discussions about bankruptcy. There are a lot of irresponsible financial policies that have helped contribute to that sorry state-of-affairs, but unquestionably, the biggest backbreakers can be directly traced back to the unions.

                          As the Washington Times has noted, union pensions are crushing budgets all across the country.


                          Yet it comes as little surprise that the same profligacy that pervades the corridors of federal power infects this country’s 87,000 state, county and municipal governments and school districts. By 2013, the amount of retirement money promised to employees of these public entities will exceed cash on hand by more than a trillion dollars.

                          So, what happens when these pensions can’t be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar’s bowl in hand, the American people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else’s expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they’ve been bilking for so long.

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3730

                            #103
                            Clayton that is just some right wing propaganda that you copied and paste. Bubstr replies are more accurate than your BS. Did unions do make some mistkaes? Sure they did but overall they are good for this nation.
                            You are just one of the people who never had a union job and are jealous of the one who do. The job you retired from was there any union people there?
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • Clayton_Wetter
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 16671

                              #104
                              I would not expect any other reply from you. You believe what you choose.

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                              • Clayton_Wetter
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 16671

                                #105
                                Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                                Clayton that is just some right wing propaganda that you copied and paste. Bubstr replies are more accurate than your BS. Did unions do make some mistkaes? Sure they did but overall they are good for this nation.
                                You are just one of the people who never had a union job and are jealous of the one who do. The job you retired from was there any union people there?
                                Guess what, I was a union member for about ten years and then opted out for my last eighteen years at the same employer. I'm for sure not jealous of unions, as most people realize how corrupt the big unions are. The time of industrialization has long passed and yes the corruption and ties to one political party is a fact and not propaganda. I stand by what I posted above about unions 100% and the facts are out there to prove to. Jealous of unions? lol

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