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WHY!!!! Do you ever go into Walmart? There is a fair amount of Walmart employees that are over paid at minimum wage....and whether or not they can make ends meet on that salary isn't a concern of mine, they can do what I did for the bulk of my life, work two jobs!!!
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That statement is only partially right. the wages are not exactly lowered. They stay the same with very few raises. Inflation that is built into our debt based economy is a given and it increases the prices.Originally posted by Hollis View PostLower wages and the lowering of the standard of living will cause a escalation of prices for almost all goods....
When guys say the unions make more that they are worth or minimum wage is more than starting employees are worth, they are completely wrong. The fact is union wages have kept closer to inflation than non union jobs. We can see this in how many job holders it takes to support a family. If in fact minimum wage had kept up with inflation, it would be somewhere around $18 an hour, based off of 1960 when this trend started.
The trouble is most of the people that prefer not to raise minimum wage, see no problem with illegal immigration and out sourcing and detest unions, either benefit from the profits, haven't lived long enough to see the results or just plain didn't pay attention. I for one would love to go back to that $1.25 an hour minimum wage if the inflation followed suit. This business model that makes their profit from their own employees, rather than the consumer is going to destroy all of the middle class if left unchecked. For the ones that don't mind longer hours for the same standard of living, what are you going to do when there aren't enough hours in the day? Send your kids to work? Maybe you will wake up when they try to change the child labor laws.
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This goes back to what is "poverty"? What is a "comfortable standard of living"?Originally posted by t.nie View PostUnskilled or not, a job should mean you are not on food stamps or Medicare. It used to be, back in the 50's and 60's, a single person working full time could support a family. Then in the 70's, households had to have dual incomes to be middle class. These days, even 2 incomes is often not enough to pull you up into a comfortable standard of living.
In the 50's and 60's people could put clothes on their family, food in their bellies and a roof over their head with one income because most knew what they NEEDED and what they could AFFORD and spent their money accordingly.
Compare that to today. How many of these "poor" families have cell phones, internet, T.V.s (many are big screens), 2 vehicles? How much do they spend on beer, cigarettes and lottery tickets????
Heard a story about a guy who saw a lady on food stamps buying pounds and pounds of ground beef. He asked what it was for. She said she feeds it to her dog because she can't buy dog food with food stamps. If you think this kind of abuse of the system is rare, you are ignorant. Here's an idea....get rid of the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) dog!! The majority just don't think that way. It's all about "how can I get more for free?" The fact that liberals refuse to see this is beyond comprehension.
http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...rty-in-america
How many of these families consist of kids from multiple fathers? Seems to me if people could control their hormones and be a role model with a work ethic, we'd have a whole lot less problems with welfare.
Call me whatever names you want. You can't dispute my points. Nobody is going to convince me that the majority of this upcoming generation is not LAZY!! I see it first hand in people I try to hire. They don't/won't work long enough to make more money. They go back to going home and sit on their couch and collect public aid and whatever else "free" money they can for doing nothing.
If people would be willing to give up some unnecessary expenses, they could provide the essentials for their family and work their way up from an entry level job. They just don't want to make the sacrifices necessary. It's that "entitlement" mentality that is running rampant and an administration that is fueling it more and more all the time.
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Union Hiring Undocumented workers!!! California
I belong to a Union and the Union has developed apractice of Hiriing Illegas to join the Union!!!! I am completely taken back by this. To me this violates the very thing that UNION stands for. I have no problem with people coming to this beloved country and earnig thier right to work. However this is not the case. I have worked with guys that have openly admitted to having fake documentation and got in the union. I have also heard of Union Reps taking some of these guys out to dinner and lunch to persuade the to join the Union and even offered help in obtaining fake documentation. I am appalled by the actions of this Union. I do not know who to bring this to but I feel it needs to be stopped immediately and those that are in the Union with illegal papers kicked out immediately. can somebody please help. I do not want to name the union for fear of my personal safety butI do not trust anybody that can actually stop this within the Union. Can some one please help?
Hope ya'll unioniodes like this info!
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I'm not a die hard union guy but I like it just fine. I don't believe it, but I would rather they worked for union rates than scab off the Home Depot curb and drag everyone else's wage down.Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostUnion Hiring Undocumented workers!!! California
I belong to a Union and the Union has developed apractice of Hiriing Illegas to join the Union!!!! I am completely taken back by this. To me this violates the very thing that UNION stands for. I have no problem with people coming to this beloved country and earnig thier right to work. However this is not the case. I have worked with guys that have openly admitted to having fake documentation and got in the union. I have also heard of Union Reps taking some of these guys out to dinner and lunch to persuade the to join the Union and even offered help in obtaining fake documentation. I am appalled by the actions of this Union. I do not know who to bring this to but I feel it needs to be stopped immediately and those that are in the Union with illegal papers kicked out immediately. can somebody please help. I do not want to name the union for fear of my personal safety butI do not trust anybody that can actually stop this within the Union. Can some one please help?
Hope ya'll unioniodes like this info!
Undocumented workers is something we are going to be stuck with I believe. Big business really don't want them to get amnesty because if they are legal, they won't be scared to ask for better wages. On the other hand they don't want them all shipped back either. It is a part of the cheap and abundant work force that keeps their profits up. Both parties will make a good show and neither amnesty or deportation will be the result, because the people that fund the politicians want it that way. You watch, an amnesty bill of some sort will pass in the Senate and fail in the house and both parties will say that was the best they could do and the boarders will be forgotten again. It will be business as usual with the Illegals that we aren't supposed to call illegals anymore. There will not even be any discussion about holding business responsible for hiring them, which is the key to stopping illegal immigration.
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Since when does a union hire anyone unless is to work FOR the union. My union didn't hire me, my company did. My union represents me. I don't work for my union.43 races this year.
Tulsa Expo- 5, Volusia- 3, Bubba Raceway- 3
Dillon Speedway- 1, Myrtle Beach Speedway-1, Hickory Speedway- 1
Southern National- 1, Lincoln Speedway-2, Williams Grove Speedway-2, Indiana State Fairgrounds-1
Anderson (Indiana) Speedway-1, Indianapolis Motor Speedway- 1
Bloomington Speedway-1, Lawrenceburg Speedway-1
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Labor leaders said they hope their new policy will help persuade Congress to pass an amnesty law that would enable illegal immigrant workers to stand up for their rights.
Yes stand up for THEIR rights!!!
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Fine take the numbers from the 50s and 60s multiply them with the yearly inflation rates and you will have around $15 to $18 an hour minimum wage. All of them back then didn't just spend on essentials either, no matter what your dad told you. The kids of that day was underestimated also. Greasy hair, rock and roll and hot rods. They will never amount to anything. My dad was born in 1905 and the young man that pulled his knickerbockers down below the knee and went to town to shoot pool and chew tobacco was never going to amount to anything either. Times change but that is an old story.Originally posted by skids View PostThis goes back to what is "poverty"? What is a "comfortable standard of living"?
In the 50's and 60's people could put clothes on their family, food in their bellies and a roof over their head with one income because most knew what they NEEDED and what they could AFFORD and spent their money accordingly.
Compare that to today. How many of these "poor" families have cell phones, internet, T.V.s (many are big screens), 2 vehicles? How much do they spend on beer, cigarettes and lottery tickets????
Heard a story about a guy who saw a lady on food stamps buying pounds and pounds of ground beef. He asked what it was for. She said she feeds it to her dog because she can't buy dog food with food stamps. If you think this kind of abuse of the system is rare, you are ignorant. Here's an idea....get rid of the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) dog!! The majority just don't think that way. It's all about "how can I get more for free?" The fact that liberals refuse to see this is beyond comprehension.
http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...rty-in-america
How many of these families consist of kids from multiple fathers? Seems to me if people could control their hormones and be a role model with a work ethic, we'd have a whole lot less problems with welfare.
Call me whatever names you want. You can't dispute my points. Nobody is going to convince me that the majority of this upcoming generation is not LAZY!! I see it first hand in people I try to hire. They don't/won't work long enough to make more money. They go back to going home and sit on their couch and collect public aid and whatever else "free" money they can for doing nothing.
If people would be willing to give up some unnecessary expenses, they could provide the essentials for their family and work their way up from an entry level job. They just don't want to make the sacrifices necessary. It's that "entitlement" mentality that is running rampant and an administration that is fueling it more and more all the time.
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Horse crap..........watch when people start not driving there cars nearly as much, what happens? The price come down.... Pull your head out and look around a little.Originally posted by Hollis View PostLower wages and the lowering of the standard of living will cause a escalation of prices for almost all goods....
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Unskilled or not, a job should mean you are not on food stamps or Medicare. It used to be, back in the 50's and 60's, a single person working full time could support a family. Then in the 70's, households had to have dual incomes to be middle class. These days, even 2 incomes is often not enough to pull you up into a comfortable standard of living.
Well you can thank your idiot Democrat party for killing that dream....regulation upon regulation, union upon union, over price labor and drive business out of America, government that over taxes a business from top to bottom, all and I mean all Democrat doing, and you continue to vote for them....pretty much marks your intelligence on the subject doesn't it.
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Ok. So why does America now boast more billionaires, millionaires and generally more wealth than other nations combined if "the unions and regulations" killed any chance of anyone making a dime? By the way, are you even aware of the number of union workers in the nation as a percentage of the overall?Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
Well you can thank your idiot Democrat party for killing that dream....regulation upon regulation, union upon union, over price labor and drive business out of America, government that over taxes a business from top to bottom, all and I mean all Democrat doing, and you continue to vote for them....pretty much marks your intelligence on the subject doesn't it.
Duane, the "Unions" you are railing on about existed 40 years ago, not today. Perhaps you could try to maybe keep up with the times, instead of being trapped in the mental mind warp you seem to be in? You sound like every crotchety old fart sitting around Hardees with my 80 year old father solving the problems of the world by blaming it all on whomever they thought was the problem 40 years ago.
Times have changed. It would help you a lot if you could perhaps try to change with them. You can't keep blaming the nation's ills on the same culprits when those culprits no longer exist.
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