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  • Bubstr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3734

    #106
    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
    Have you not heard the news? We have new responsible Republicans that are trying to cut spending and balance the budget and one running against Mitch too. But please don't mention Obummers Administration and Progressive buddies that are running the debt ceiling clear to the moon. No make sure the blame goes to Republicans. Yes I see your true colors now too!
    If you was truly concerned about spending, you would absolutely be against fixed or mobile border enforcement. It does not pay for it's self and is ineffective as they can just go around. It's another Drug war trap. A money pit.

    Face it, they come for jobs and education. Remove them and they will stay home. They will even run home before they starve. And if a few food processing plants or corporate farms lose their business, it will pay for shipping and packaging the illegals and anything left can be used to hire border patrol.

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #107
      One thing is for sure, Mexico has not spent one dime on border security. HA!

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      • mudeater18
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1599

        #108
        Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
        Face it, they come for jobs and education.
        I agree, and I don't think we can/should ever stop them from coming here.
        But, until You become a "Legal" US Citizen, learn the English language, file and pay Federal and State income taxes, You should not be eligible for any type of public assistance, food stamps, welfare, subsidized education beyond high school, and You are definitely NOT eligible to vote.

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        • Bubstr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 3734

          #109
          Originally posted by mudeater18 View Post
          I agree, and I don't think we can/should ever stop them from coming here.
          But, until You become a "Legal" US Citizen, learn the English language, file and pay Federal and State income taxes, You should not be eligible for any type of public assistance, food stamps, welfare, subsidized education beyond high school, and You are definitely NOT eligible to vote.
          We should stop them from coming illegally. We have quotas for immigration. We have had them since the founding fathers started this country. The quotas have periodically been raised every so often. Big business likes more all the time, because it promotes cheap abundant labor. During the late 1800s and early 1900s, Meat packing business used to advertise in Ireland, Germany, Poland, Lithuania and Russia, about how streets where paved in gold and how they could all get rich here, then use them as slave labor. I have news for you, they're still getting exploited. Everyone that works is getting exploited because of them. I know a Racer that worked as a Engineer for a big manufacturer. They now have half price Indian Engineers and he works as a welder, because it pays better. The sad thing is he trained his own replacement.

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          • Clayton_Wetter
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 16671

            #110
            Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
            If you was truly concerned about spending, you would absolutely be against fixed or mobile border enforcement. It does not pay for it's self and is ineffective as they can just go around. It's another Drug war trap. A money pit.

            Face it, they come for jobs and education. Remove them and they will stay home. They will even run home before they starve. And if a few food processing plants or corporate farms lose their business, it will pay for shipping and packaging the illegals and anything left can be used to hire border patrol.
            How the heck are them going to run home when Obummer and the left are advertising for them to come across the borders with promises of Amnesty and "the Freebies"? DO you realize what Obummer and his clones are doing to get these people to come here in droves now? Mexicans radio stations are even broadcasting the invites!!

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #111
              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
              How the heck are them going to run home when Obummer and the left are advertising for them to come across the borders with promises of Amnesty and "the Freebies"? DO you realize what Obummer and his clones are doing to get these people to come here in droves now? Mexicans radio stations are even broadcasting the invites!!
              And the republicans are not calling for hearings about enforcing immigration laws on the books. The amnesty bill will not pass, unless the republican party caves in. I think even some in the democratic party voting against it. Gut feeling tells me, it will pass with bi-partisan support.

              This isn't about voters, it's about cheap abundant labor. You just pass a law and enforce it, that confiscates the business that hires illegals.
              Last edited by Bubstr; 10-28-2013, 06:53 PM.

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #112
                New estimates show the federal government will spend nearly twice as much fighting global warming this year than on U.S. border security.

                The White House reported to House Republicans that there are 18 federal agencies engaged in global warming activities in 2013, funding a wide range of programs, including scientific research, international climate assistance, incentivizing renewable energy technology and subsidies to renewable energy producers. Global warming spending is estimated to cost $22.2 billion this year, and $21.4 billion next year.

                At the same time, the federal government will spend nearly $12 billion on customs and border enforcement this year.

                Obama’s climate agenda has attracted criticism from congressional Republicans who have been hammering the administration over the accountability and transparency of its global warming efforts.

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                • kidrock
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 16407

                  #113
                  Lets be honest neither side really cared enough about this problem or they would have done something about it a long time ago. It's great talking points for both sides. There is plenty of blame to go around on this issue. There are plenty of laws on the books as we speak to make a huge dent in the problem if they really wanted to. The issue only comes every time there is a election around the corner.

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                  • LITE-INN
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 12473

                    #114
                    New estimates show the federal government will spend nearly twice as much fighting global warming this year than on U.S. border security. that makes sense NOT

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                    • Bubstr
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3734

                      #115
                      Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                      New estimates show the federal government will spend nearly twice as much fighting global warming this year than on U.S. border security. that makes sense NOT
                      A lot of the spending priorities don't make sense. We spend toughly half of the yearly budget on defense if you count what goes out of discretionary spending to fight Iraq and Afghanistan. That is more than the next 10 nations spend and we protect 9 of them. We aren't any safer than they are.

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                      • dirtisforracin
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 545

                        #116
                        Goverments responsiblity to protect us, for foreign and domestic treat. I think is CRY SHAME, that our military folks dont make better wages then the do. For that I blame BOTH parties. Also why in the world we pay some of these nations billions of dollars in aide and would destroy us in minute should stop. Only Isreal should be getting any foreign aide.
                        Bubstr, I know your a veteran, did you have any problems that DOD and President did not pay families, the death benefits they deserved. Not picking on you, I just think the way our military and veterans are treated under this adminstration is horrible.

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16407

                          #117
                          Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
                          Goverments responsiblity to protect us, for foreign and domestic treat. I think is CRY SHAME, that our military folks dont make better wages then the do. For that I blame BOTH parties. Also why in the world we pay some of these nations billions of dollars in aide and would destroy us in minute should stop. Only Isreal should be getting any foreign aide.
                          Bubstr, I know your a veteran, did you have any problems that DOD and President did not pay families, the death benefits they deserved. Not picking on you, I just think the way our military and veterans are treated under this adminstration is horrible.
                          How about they way our veterans and the people currently in the military are treated not just by this Administration but, the 40 or 50 years of service by other Administrations.

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                          • Bubstr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3734

                            #118
                            Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
                            Goverments responsiblity to protect us, for foreign and domestic treat. I think is CRY SHAME, that our military folks dont make better wages then the do. For that I blame BOTH parties. Also why in the world we pay some of these nations billions of dollars in aide and would destroy us in minute should stop. Only Isreal should be getting any foreign aide.
                            Bubstr, I know your a veteran, did you have any problems that DOD and President did not pay families, the death benefits they deserved. Not picking on you, I just think the way our military and veterans are treated under this adminstration is horrible.
                            There isn't enough to pay the soldier after all the military corporate welfare. It is a shame when you spend the amount we do and there are soldiers getting food stamps to supplement their income. If you look outside contractors bid on things like food service, laundry even logistics and they are not required to include the cost of buildings, airplanes, boats and the military does. On top of that any labor involved over seas is under minimum wage standard from India or a country like that. We buy transport planes from France. We buy steel from China, We buy gas from Saudi. If we ever got into a real war, we'd be screwed. To put it bluntly, we are not getting our monies worth.

                            Your talking about a delay in a couple death benefits during the shut down. Over all the Va is much better today than it ever has been since the 60s, when I first became eligible. As a matter of fact I see improvement since the days of Regan to Bush II. It's been a tradition of this country, the spoils of war go to the rich and the soldiers are cannon fodder.

                            If you go back and read the Constitution, the original document only provides to have a standing Navy to protect trade.

                            I do agree to cut off aide to all, Even Israel. It's not our job to be the world cop. Make no mistake, all wars are fought over power or money and most times both.

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                            • dirtisforracin
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 545

                              #119
                              I said I blamed both parties. But liberals like Obama, dont respect and honor our military. The military has done to many bad things in there view. Or the death benefit would never have been an issue. A couple of weeks ago. You liberal can never argue on facts, its always a feeling arguement with you guys. Remember its alway about a video!!! Does anyone believe that Bush or Clinton for that matter would have had stand down orders while americans were under attack! Wonder why 90% of the active military votes republican.

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16407

                                #120
                                Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
                                I said I blamed both parties. But liberals like Obama, dont respect and honor our military. The military has done to many bad things in there view. Or the death benefit would never have been an issue. A couple of weeks ago. You liberal can never argue on facts, its always a feeling arguement with you guys. Remember its alway about a video!!! Does anyone believe that Bush or Clinton for that matter would have had stand down orders while americans were under attack! Wonder why 90% of the active military votes republican.

                                Maybe read this article and find out a little of what President Obama has done.

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