Video: Obama on the National Debt

[LITE-INN]

No dude, that's you guys. You're all one trick ponies. Read how many times I or others like me have posted long essays regarding what we THINK about things, then read the typical responses from your side. Dropped on your head, flaming liberal, socialist, blah blah blah. Then you go cut and paste something from your favorite Right Winger Propaganda site or throw up a link to what SOMEONE ELSE thinks and try and pass that off as your contribution to the debate. Face it, all you guys do is throw insults around, you very rarely offer any original thoughts of your own at all. You can't think or debate, but you're pretty good at insults and accusations. Doesn't make you look very intelligent, but go ahead, call me a social flaming libtard, Saul Alinsky, whatever.

and its all bullsh!t

[t.nie]

but its the truth a and you should be proud of it betcha you would find away to blame bush on obummercare

If you trace the history of what is now Obamacare, you will find that Conservatives embraced the individual mandate and proposed it long before Obama took it up and pushed it.

At the time Clinton was arguing for single payer, and the Conservatives said NO, government should not be the single payer, what we should do instead is pass an individual mandate law that requires everyone to have HEALTH INSURANCE or pay a penalty. At the time conservatives were pushing for the individual mandate to keep insurance companies in the game, instead of eliminating the health insurance industry altogether in favor of nationalized medicine.

This is all kind of a waste of time with you though. Please, go back to calling me a stupid liberal who "don't know nothing bout nothing and don't need to know no steenking facts....."

[t.nie]

and its all bullsh!t

I agree. Most of what you post is just bullsh!t. But you love the sound and smell of it, so who am I to judge? Enjoy your misinformation and bullsh!t. You bring to the table some of the finest Bullsh!t ever created. Grade A, 5 star, Prime with all the bells and whistles conservative Bullsh!t.

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here is a group you can help lead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWfGKt0aZLI

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If you trace the history of what is now Obamacare, you will find that Conservatives embraced the individual mandate and proposed it long before Obama took it up and pushed it. At the time Clinton was arguing for single payer, and the Conservatives said NO, government should not be the single payer, what we should do instead is pass an individual mandate law that requires everyone to have HEALTH INSURANCE or pay a penalty. At the time conservatives were pushing for the individual mandate to keep insurance companies in the game, instead of eliminating the health insurance industry altogether in favor of nationalized medicine. This is all kind of a waste of time with you though. Please, go back to calling me a stupid liberal who "don't know nothing bout nothing and don't need to know no steenking facts....."

so what your saying the conservatives have not waiver a bit wow

[mudeater18]

If you trace the history of what is now Obamacare, you will find that Conservatives embraced the individual mandate and proposed it long before Obama took it up and pushed it.

Lol ! ObamaDontCare is so bad, even Liberal Extremists are trying to deny ownership of it ! This is GREAT !!!

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even the libs in office today say its bad

[kidrock]

How in the heck can anyone say it's bad when it hasn't even taken affect yet. Yes people are having trouble signing up but, they have time to fix the problem and get people signed up. No one knows if this is going to be bad or good at this point. What I do know is that most Republicans are going to say it's bad and that most Dems are going to say it good but, no one really knows.

[LITE-INN]

How in the heck can anyone say it's bad when it hasn't even taken affect yet. Yes people are having trouble signing up but, they have time to fix the problem and get people signed up. No one knows if this is going to be bad or good at this point. What I do know is that most Republicans are going to say it's bad and that most Dems are going to say it good but, no one really knows.

read the flipping article

[t.nie]

Why don't you read and THINK about it, Freddy? Oh wait, much easier to just hate anything new (conservatism) than THINK.

Oh, by the way, 90% are now able to create accounts and apply. So that got improved pretty darned fast by anyone's account.

[t.nie]

Lol ! ObamaDontCare is so bad, even Liberal Extremists are trying to deny ownership of it ! This is GREAT !!!

That's your take on what I said?

Well, let me clear something up for you..... Conservatives are now disowning an idea they originally floated and promoted.

All this proves is that Obama WILL embrace ideas from any side of the political spectrum if they are good ideas.

Conservatives are the ones now trying to disown their own creation. Oh, and did you know Romneycare which works well was designed and implemented by Conservatives and is the model for Obamacare?

So tell me, why do the right wingers now oppose it? Because its a bad concept or idea? Or because their only goal is to destroy America to destroy a man they personally despise?

I know which one I think it is.

[t.nie]

Seriously, I think the GOP is now down to that "broken arrow" mentality. When you are losing the fight, all is lost and you have no chance of winning, you basically let your enemy overrun your position and blow yourself up along with as many of the opposing forces as you can take with you.

The GOP is implementing that strategy on America, and has been since McConnell said his only objective when Obama took office was to destroy HIM. Thanks Mitch, screw America but let's get Obama. Brilliant strategy for helping our nation. It really shows how ignorantly selfish these a$$holes you vote for are.

But why bother trying to convince you of the foolishness of your folly, you guys are the same kind of people who would be cheering and peeing your pants like schoolgirls at a Justin Bieber concert at the Ted Cruz Rally for Radicals welcome home party in Texas.

[kidrock]

read the flipping article

I don't need to read someones opinion. I will wait and see how this all plays out and then and only then will that be factual. So much is being put out there that somewhere in the middle is probably the actual truth.

[Bubstr]

guess what they got here walking they can do same going back home

I see, you really don't have a clue, if that is all you got out of my questions. You don't even realize that this illegal alien problem is about money and who profits and who pays. I don't even think you could be educated, because you can not read and comprehend. I sometimes think we should have a IQ test to vote.

[mudeater18]

So tell me, why do the right wingers now oppose it?

Because Obama said it would cost $900 billion dollars over 10 years
- Current CBO estimates the cost at $1.8 - $2.6 trillion over 10 years.

Because Obama said it would save the average family $2500 a year on health insurance costs
- The current prices displayed on the site are going to cost the average family $7500 more per year. That's a $10000 swing over what was originally touted.

Because Obama said you could keep your own doctor if you liked.
- As of now at least 16 million Americans are losing their health plans due to the costs and regulations of Obamacare.

Because Obama said ObamaCare will create 4 million new jobs.
- hte CBO says that ObamaCare will destroy at least 800,000 jobs, and the taxes will drive more overseas.

This is just a fraction of the reasons why I oppose ObamaCare. It's just simple math. If don't understand simple math, I'm sorry I can't help you.

Spending $634 million on a website that doesn't work is only the icing on the cake of the incompetence displayed by our "leaders".
Pulling off a Nation Healthcare Program might be a little tougher than a website !