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  • LITE-INN
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    • Feb 2008
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    #61
    Are you for or against prison terms for employers that hire Illegals? Do you want the borders closed? Do you want to pay to have the borders closed? FOR AND CLOSE THE FLIPPING BORDERS AND LESS SECURE SHIP ALL ILLEGALS BACK TO THERE HOME COUNTRY

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    • Bubstr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3734

      #62
      Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
      Are you for or against prison terms for employers that hire Illegals? Do you want the borders closed? Do you want to pay to have the borders closed? FOR AND CLOSE THE FLIPPING BORDERS AND LESS SECURE SHIP ALL ILLEGALS BACK TO THERE HOME COUNTRY
      Well, you answered a part of one question. Now How do you propose to pay for all the buss fares back to Mexico and the boat rides back to India? Who are we going to charge for the Border fence? You popping for that, big spender? If you go back to Regan's Amnesty deal, which was much the same. Legalize immigrants and close border. When it came time to close the border, no one wanted to pay the bill. This time the republicans cant vote to appropriate money for this, because they pledged to cut spending. They can vote for amnesty though. The democrats have no problem going deeper in debt. This does not fix the problem.

      Answer the rest of the questions. It was your article, you surly read it. Don't you have any opinions on it? This is a problem people don't really read and understand. The don't question the varsity of the article. It just becomes their thought, because FOX NEWS wouldn't say anything that wasn't so or slant a prospective.

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      • Clayton_Wetter
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        • May 2007
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        #63
        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
        NO, this is the fault of not only the President but, Congress as well. They all have to take responsibility for this mess. There is no way if they all worked together that we would be in this shape. Some of you just like to blame the Dems but, you fail to remember for the last 13 years this country has been heading down the wrong path and more than half of that time the Repubs have been in control of at least the House, Senate or the Presidency. THEY ARE ALL TO BLAME.
        http://www.businessinsider.com/us-budget-deficit-2011-7
        Of all the posts you make on here you always have to say both parties are guilty. Did you ever consider that the guy that got shot might not be guilty too, once in a while? Always saving face for blatently failed Democratic policies by including everyone else as guilty too. How about starting to put the blame where it lies. Of course we know a liberal never admits that they are wrong!

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        • Clayton_Wetter
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          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #64
          Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
          No my friend, I am not a Liberal or a so called conservative, I am a Realist. You don't live in a world of reality if you think either so called liberal or conservative has your interests in mind. You didn't buy them.

          Stop copy and pasting and think for yourself for a change.
          What is wrong with presenting sources? It saves a lot of time when you are arguing with bricks walls. lol How do you like my humor??? Ha!!!

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          • LITE-INN
            Banned
            • Feb 2008
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
            Well, you answered a part of one question. Now How do you propose to pay for all the buss fares back to Mexico and the boat rides back to India? Who are we going to charge for the Border fence? You popping for that, big spender? If you go back to Regan's Amnesty deal, which was much the same. Legalize immigrants and close border. When it came time to close the border, no one wanted to pay the bill. This time the republicans cant vote to appropriate money for this, because they pledged to cut spending. They can vote for amnesty though. The democrats have no problem going deeper in debt. This does not fix the problem. Answer the rest of the questions. It was your article, you surly read it. Don't you have any opinions on it? This is a problem people don't really read and understand. The don't question the varsity of the article. It just becomes their thought, because FOX NEWS wouldn't say anything that wasn't so or slant a prospective.
            guess what they got here walking they can do same going back home

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #66
              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
              What is wrong with presenting sources? It saves a lot of time when you are arguing with bricks walls. lol How do you like my humor??? Ha!!!
              Just like courses, there are sources for horses. Some people need a source to think for them. If you read Lite's article, maybe you would like to answer the questions that, that article should make you think about. If that's not possible, just keep on letting some one else think for you. Common knowledge should point out at least two examples of slanting in that article. Lite posted the article. Is the article completely factual? Was it slanted? What does the article say or not say about the subject?

              I guess I am a brick wall, when it comes to someone twisting truth, slanting, phrasing or misconception to influence simple minds. It's done in a subtle way, so a lot of people don't catch it.

              (I see you found another copy and paste. Tell us what you think about this article. Are the unions against amnesty? Is having Hispanic union members a reason to be against it or for it? Would they be against if if they had no Hispanics in the unions? Are you for or against Amnesty? Are you for or against prison terms for employers that hire Illegals? Do you want the borders closed? Do you want to pay to have the borders closed?

              Here is the big question, do you believe Amnesty will make our country's working citizen more job secure or less and will it improve his standard of living? )

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              • t.nie
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 1146

                #67
                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                Of all the posts you make on here you always have to say both parties are guilty. Did you ever consider that the guy that got shot might not be guilty too, once in a while? Always saving face for blatently failed Democratic policies by including everyone else as guilty too. How about starting to put the blame where it lies. Of course we know a liberal never admits that they are wrong!
                Ok. So, let's take a look at this in more detail.

                A liberal never admits they were wrong?

                You say Obama is a liberal, true?

                Because he's a liberal, he can never admit he was wrong.

                Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling when Bush was in office. Obama said he would close GITMO when elected.

                Obama, once in office, has changed his mind about both, admitting you think one thing as a Senator and another when in the office of the President. So he admits he was wrong about both.

                Conclusion? Obama is not a liberal, because he admitted he was wrong, and liberals CAN NEVER admit when they are wrong.

                OR

                Conclusion? Obama is a liberal, and LIBERALS DO admit when they are wrong.

                Either way, Tea Billy Terry, you are wrong. You are wrong that he's a liberal, or you are wrong about liberals never admitting they are wrong.

                The only question now is will the ignorant Tea Billy Terry admit HE is wrong?

                I won't be holding my breath on this one.

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                • LITE-INN
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 12473

                  #68
                  no he is a liberal

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                  • t.nie
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1146

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                    Just like courses, there are sources for horses. Some people need a source to think for them. If you read Lite's article, maybe you would like to answer the questions that, that article should make you think about. If that's not possible, just keep on letting some one else think for you. Common knowledge should point out at least two examples of slanting in that article. Lite posted the article. Is the article completely factual? Was it slanted? What does the article say or not say about the subject?

                    I guess I am a brick wall, when it comes to someone twisting truth, slanting, phrasing or misconception to influence simple minds. It's done in a subtle way, so a lot of people don't catch it.

                    (I see you found another copy and paste. Tell us what you think about this article. Are the unions against amnesty? Is having Hispanic union members a reason to be against it or for it? Would they be against if if they had no Hispanics in the unions? Are you for or against Amnesty? Are you for or against prison terms for employers that hire Illegals? Do you want the borders closed? Do you want to pay to have the borders closed?

                    Here is the big question, do you believe Amnesty will make our country's working citizen more job secure or less and will it improve his standard of living? )
                    Rule number one when discussing anything with Terry. DON'T ask HIM what HE thinks, or anything that will require him too. That's his weakest attribute, thinking. He just doesn't. Which is why he comes on here day in and day out fighting like a maniac for what OTHER PEOPLE have told him to believe.

                    If he ever did sit down and think things through for longer than it takes to read a bumper sticker, his brain would overheat and explode. NOT thinking is what keeps Terry feeling safe and secure under his tin foil hat. When he starts thinking, it gets really scary, because all the stuff he's been led to believe is true starts falling apart and then he just doesn't know WHAT to think any more. The World becomes a "big, scary place!" when you ask him to think and it makes him very uncomfortable.

                    So he just plays it safe and sticks with what people tell him is true. Much easier and safer for him that way. That's what's called "conservative;" don't change anything or introduce any new thoughts or ideas, because anything new just scares THE CRAP out of a non-thinking conservative.

                    If you don't ever change anything, then nothing ever changes and you don't need to think about anything. Life is simpler that way, and some people just revolt against anything that requires them to think. You're just asking conservatives to do the impossible: think.
                    Last edited by t.nie; 10-26-2013, 10:53 AM.

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #70
                      can't argue so you beat up the messenger

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                      • t.nie
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1146

                        #71
                        Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                        no he is a liberal
                        Terry, I believe Freddy just called you a liberal.........

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                        • LITE-INN
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2008
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                          #72
                          no calling you reid Pelosi and obummer a liberal

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                          • t.nie
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1146

                            #73
                            Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                            can't argue so you beat up the messenger
                            No dude, that's you guys. You're all one trick ponies. Read how many times I or others like me have posted long essays regarding what we THINK about things, then read the typical responses from your side.

                            Dropped on your head, flaming liberal, socialist, blah blah blah. Then you go cut and paste something from your favorite Right Winger Propaganda site or throw up a link to what SOMEONE ELSE thinks and try and pass that off as your contribution to the debate.

                            Face it, all you guys do is throw insults around, you very rarely offer any original thoughts of your own at all. You can't think or debate, but you're pretty good at insults and accusations. Doesn't make you look very intelligent, but go ahead, call me a social flaming libtard, Saul Alinsky, whatever.

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                            • t.nie
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1146

                              #74
                              Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                              no calling you reid Pelosi and obummer a liberal
                              Typical reply. You even say "calling you a liberal." That's it? Call me a name is your entire contribution to the debate? We have come to expect nothing less. Insults, name calling, and then you say up there somewhere before "shoot the messenger?" Really?

                              Freddy, you're only response is to call me a liberal, like THAT is some kind of well thought out response, and then you criticize me of "shoot the messenger?"

                              Really? Laughable.

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                              • LITE-INN
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 12473

                                #75
                                but its the truth a and you should be proud of it betcha you would find away to blame bush on obummercare

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