A video for ALL Americans

[anthonycacace]

Some one may have already pointed this out, but why do non-believes object so much to the folks that do believe? Why doesn't it bother them so much? Why does it bother anyone that the Founding fathers were believers of God? Does it make them any less respected? Did it change their job they did? As for bashing a present believer, why? Who do I harm with my belief? If a city puts up a religious symbol and the non-believer doesn't like it, why, if they don't believe it should mean nothing to them. I can not follow their thinking at all. Maybe one of them maroons can explain it to me.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. Being of a different mind, does not mean others (whom you lumped in as 'non-believers') care what you do. But, we do care what a government for all pushes and stands for. I do not care that the Montana Capital has the Ten Commandments on its grounds; PROVIDED, you do not care that a Muslim, Rastafarian, Wicca, or Jewish group would be permitted to have a religious symbol placed there as well.

One final question that no 'believer' has ever been able to answer yet. Was humankind created first and then the animals as stated in Genesis 2:7 & 2:19 or was it animals and then humankind as presented in Genesis 1:20, 1:25, & 1:26? Alternatively, can we all admit the Bible was edited/created by man and as such is an imperfect work of faith?

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One final question that no 'believer' has ever been able to answer yet. Was humankind created first and then the animals as stated in Genesis 2:7 & 2:19 or was it animals and then humankind as presented in Genesis 1:20, 1:25, & 1:26? Alternatively, can we all admit the Bible was edited/created by man and as such is an imperfect work of faith?

Animals before man.

In chapter 2, from verse 4 on is a recap of what was discussed in chapter one, but focuses on the creation of man (and woman) in particular. In vs. 18 God said "it is not good for man to be alone; I will make him a helper COMPARABLE to him." This refers to woman. Verse 19 says "out of the ground The Lord formed every beast of the field....." It does NOT say he did it right THEN (after he formed man). It is in a recap context that it is saying he brought the beasts that he had formed to Adam to be named. It then goes on to say that none were a helper comparable to him, thus God created woman.

[mudslinger47]

you do not care that a Muslim, Rastafarian, Wicca, or Jewish group would be permitted to have a religious symbol placed there as well.

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Well, when they create there own nation, they are certainly welcome to. But this nation was founded a Christian Nation and aught to stay as such. JMO. Your welcome to your own believe regardless how rediculas it is.

Oh, one more thing, if you believe in the Bible, its all or nothing. There is no in-between. Can I answer the mysteries of the Bible and make sense of all of it? Not yet, but I'm still learning and trying.

[mudslinger47]

Animals before man.

In chapter 2, from verse 4 on is a recap of what was discussed in chapter one, but focuses on the creation of man (and woman) in particular. In vs. 18 God said "it is not good for man to be alone; I will make him a helper COMPARABLE to him." This refers to woman. Verse 19 says "out of the ground The Lord formed every beast of the field....." It does NOT say he did it right THEN (after he formed man). It is in a recap context that it is saying he brought the beasts that he had formed to Adam to be named. It then goes on to say that none were a helper comparable to him, thus God created woman.

Well, looks like this believer did...

[RATFINK]

No I'm actually the VP of a very successful Engineering Firm, but nice try. It's alright, keep being hypocritical, and I'll keep making money.

I do not believe that there is one person on this board other than yourself who is concerned with what you do or how much money you make. If you have something useful to contribute to this topic. Then by all means do so. If not please find something else to do.

If would also say that those of you who do not believe that is your right. I just don't agree with you and thats my right. However I would say that if you spent as much time researching to back up this video with the facts that are stated in it as you do researching to disprove them as non fact. You would find that a majority of the video is true. I am not saying that the entire video is the gospel as I'm sure there is at least one concerning the Geneva Bible, and I'm sure there may be a few other mistakes I have not found as of yet, but my research pro V con has proven to me that the video is mostly factual, and just another reason among many for me and my family to live by the bible's values. If you choose not to live by these values that is your decision, and I won't hold you in contempt for those beliefs. But please do not hold me in contempt for mine.

For anthonycacace I have posted this little tid bit for you. There is much more to prove my statement if you choose to search and find it.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

[big.ed]

When was the last time you spoke to God or he visited your home?

hey bushee what do you want a cookie

[big.ed]

Because the initial video is simply false, and has nothing to do with whether you believe or not. Do you not like the fact that the bible is a fiction book wrote by man. What happened to the other passages that were left out? Oh I guess since I don't believe I don't have a voice in this. Yeah, right.

your are positively a mental midget Do you not like the fact that the bible is a fiction book wrote by man prove that one lil brian

[big.ed]

When was the last time God spoke back to you or appeared?

this morning next question

[big.ed]

you have to believe

[LITE-INN]

RATFINK:The thread is titled "A video for ALL Americans".I am an American, and I do not believe in a sky god. This video is not for "ALL Americans". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

just like you bushee a dead link

[LITE-INN]

No the book is the word of God. Wrote by man, 300 years later, with certain submissions excluded. I believe it is a great book for moral values on some aspects, but unless you are stoning your brothers and other crazy things, then everyone is only a fan of christ and not a follower.

yep you need some help

[big.ed]

well yeah and your point sometimes you have to it to keep a job

[Clayton_Wetter]

RATFINK:The thread is titled "A video for ALL Americans".I am an American, and I do not believe in a sky god. This video is not for "ALL Americans". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

Your being an actual human being let alone an American is totally debatable.

I'll start the debate by saying that you are probably a figment of somebodies imagination!!

[anthonycacace]

Animals before man.

In chapter 2, from verse 4 on is a recap of what was discussed in chapter one, but focuses on the creation of man (and woman) in particular. In vs. 18 God said "it is not good for man to be alone; I will make him a helper COMPARABLE to him." This refers to woman. Verse 19 says "out of the ground The Lord formed every beast of the field....." It does NOT say he did it right THEN (after he formed man). It is in a recap context that it is saying he brought the beasts that he had formed to Adam to be named. It then goes on to say that none were a helper comparable to him, thus God created woman.

I like that you took a shot and thanks for someone finally providing such. But, this is not an as written, literal interpretation to simply say 'animals before man.'

As you noted, 2:18, indicates that Adam was alone and thus, the animals where initially created as his helper in 2:19 AFTER he was already here. Plus, 2:20 notes animals 'was not an help meet for him,' further showing they were created after he was in chapter 2.

However, this contradicts 1:20-1:22 as some animals were created on day five. Then, other animals and humankind being created on day 6 in 1:26.

Also, my King James version of the Holy Bible, and others found via the web, do not contain the word COMPARABLE in passage 2:18. Not sure where you found that addition of that verbiage.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...18&version=NIV http://bible.cc/genesis/2-18.htm https://www.biblestudytools.com/gene...enesis+2:18-25

So I ask again for a concession that the book is not perfect as written because man is imperfect and a human hand wrote it. If you cannot do such, see the text of what you wrote 2:18 as containing and those provided via weblink, then reconsider.

[anthonycacace]

Well, when they create there own nation, they are certainly welcome to. But this nation was founded a Christian Nation and aught to stay as such. JMO. Your welcome to your own believe regardless how rediculas it is.

Nope, you are describing a theocracy opposed to the democracy we have as a govt. system. Also, I would suggest rereading Amendment I as it states "no law respecting an establishment of religion." That would include Christianity the last time I checked. Which means, if you want a Christian display on public land, you also must allow other types the same ability to participate whether you like it or not.

Oh, one more thing, if you believe in the Bible, its all or nothing. There is no in-between. Can I answer the mysteries of the Bible and make sense of all of it? Not yet, but I'm still learning and trying.

Fair enough on that, but read post above and see if you still feel this way. Just curious.