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  • LITE-INN
    Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 12473

    #76
    well it kinda hard for the tea party to do anything when they are not part of any party don't stick up for the democrats. They are bought and paid for also. If you wish to stick up for the democrats, I'll show you the errors of your ways there also. As long as you have elitist, big money in politics, You don't have a representative government and that includes the teabaggers. You didn't buy them and they are not your servant. If they don't take the easy money, they won't be elected. welcome to politics

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    • Bubstr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3734

      #77
      Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
      well it kinda hard for the tea party to do anything when they are not part of any party don't stick up for the democrats. They are bought and paid for also. If you wish to stick up for the democrats, I'll show you the errors of your ways there also. As long as you have elitist, big money in politics, You don't have a representative government and that includes the teabaggers. You didn't buy them and they are not your servant. If they don't take the easy money, they won't be elected. welcome to politics
      Litey, Litey Litey, You should really put the bottle down to post. This is on a whole completely incoherent. I will say, the part you copied and pasted had capital letters and punctuation though.

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      • t.nie
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1146

        #78
        Originally posted by DirtRacer2014 View Post
        Wow Bubstr.. i have read most of the post you put on here and thought that most of them were well thought out. But when you say something like this" You listen to the BS and I'll look for results" all i can say is WOW. You want to look at some Results. almost 18 trillion in debt and most of that from this president in the last 5 years! The worlds best health care system in shambles from this president and endless American lives lost do to his lead from behind approach. The list goes on and on..RESULTS? Come on Bubstr.
        Wanna know one big thing he DID do?

        Stood up to the Tea Billies and forced THEM to back down. That's more than any of the Republican so called "leadership" can say. Boehner is so tea-billy whipped he spends his days on his knees in front of Ted Cruz while Rand Paul mounts him from behind and Eric Cantor tapes the action for showing on the multiple big screens at the next Tea Party Patriot Rally sponsored by KOCH.

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #79
          Progressives Still Can’t Understand:

          The Dreams From Our Founding Fathers

          The media, along with the immediate world, has struggled with the emergence of a potent force known as the Tea Party. There are many who struggle to define who these people are, and what they do, while others view the Tea Party as a nebulous group without concrete form…a non-descript populist crusade. By all accounts, the Tea Party remains a mystery.

          An idea that grew from the annals of history a few years ago, the Tea Party has grown into an alternative to today’s political establishment, otherwise known as “the great political machine.” Congressmen, celebrities and disenchanted citizens alike have all found refuge inside of this behemoth movement. Tens of millions have joined the Tea Party movement while both the rich and powerful and the small and meek have wondered who these people are. Even Tea Partiers have been at a loss to adequately describe their purpose. But…they share a common belief: something is radically wrong with America and they are going to fix it.

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          • LITE-INN
            Banned
            • Feb 2008
            • 12473

            #80
            Eloise Reyes' race is about more than providing another career politician with the next step on his professional ladder. It’s about making life better for people who desperately need a voice in Congress.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 12473

              #81
              http://blueamerica.crooksandliars.co....e1WULOrg.dpbs all I see is kooks or is that crooks

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              • LITE-INN
                Banned
                • Feb 2008
                • 12473

                #82

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                • mudeater18
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1599

                  #83
                  Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                  Wanna know one big thing he DID do?

                  Stood up to the Tea Billies and forced THEM to back down. That's more than any of the Republican so called "leadership" can say. Boehner is so tea-billy whipped he spends his days on his knees in front of Ted Cruz while Rand Paul mounts him from behind and Eric Cantor tapes the action for showing on the multiple big screens at the next Tea Party Patriot Rally sponsored by KOCH.
                  Your boy has done dug himself a hole he can't lie his way out of this time !!! lolololololol

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #84
                    Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                    Wanna know one big thing he DID do?

                    Stood up to the Tea Billies and forced THEM to back down. That's more than any of the Republican so called "leadership" can say. Boehner is so tea-billy whipped he spends his days on his knees in front of Ted Cruz while Rand Paul mounts him from behind and Eric Cantor tapes the action for showing on the multiple big screens at the next Tea Party Patriot Rally sponsored by KOCH.
                    Keep up the Banning material. More more!!!

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                    • dirtisforracin
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 545

                      #85
                      Actually Obama and IRS assisted in slowing down Tea Party. Something he did NOT know about right? He learned from the news?? Show me where he forced them back down? You seem to think that just because your a republican you bow down to establishment. Wrong, thats the problem with DC establishment. Republicans and Democrats. Just how many moderate/conservative democrats are in DC? Liberman was booted out by liberals
                      Congress represents it people of their district and state. Btw who now wants to repeal Obamacare McCain. Yet just 3 weeks ago he was attacking Cruz and Lee. As a republican, that is whats wrong with Republican party, not Cruz or lee, but establishment in DC. Please someone pass a bill for TERM LIMITS!!!!! I will support them Democrat or republican.

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                      • Bubstr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3734

                        #86
                        No one commenting about the executive order that allows you to keep your insurance if the provider is willing? I guess we have to wait to see what FOX news tells them. Don't worry, they should come out with talking points today.

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                        • dirtisforracin
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 545

                          #87
                          NO one including Fox needs to tell me that it was "The Law of the Land" and how an excutive order can change it legally beats me. I thought thats what the Legislative branch of goverment is for. Those plans were discontinued, because the did not meet ACA standards. Now they can have them back for a yr, then gone again after mid term elections. What about the IRS and tea party bubstr. You ok with that? Also would you be ok later down the road when a republican is president, President and IRS single out other groups of people they dont agree with. Scares the heck out of me.

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                          • Bubstr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3734

                            #88
                            Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
                            NO one including Fox needs to tell me that it was "The Law of the Land" and how an excutive order can change it legally beats me. I thought thats what the Legislative branch of goverment is for. Those plans were discontinued, because the did not meet ACA standards. Now they can have them back for a yr, then gone again after mid term elections. What about the IRS and tea party bubstr. You ok with that? Also would you be ok later down the road when a republican is president, President and IRS single out other groups of people they dont agree with. Scares the heck out of me.
                            It should scare the heck out of you. It should have scared you a long time ago, as similar executive powers have grown to the point, we don.t need a Congress. Presidents now can persecute you for your politics, when it used to be, we needed congress with people like Joe McCarthy to do it. Presidents can now declare war, that used to be a congressional job also. The Patriot act gave your right to a fair trial away, it even gave everyone's freedom and privacy away at the presidents whim.
                            J Kennedy was ahead of his time and the War Powers Act when he circumvented authority on the bay of pigs deal. Our Congress has sold our farm whether or not we wanted to jeep it or not. It is wrong, It has been wrong whether its a democrat or republican president. If you don't like it change it. Stop reelecting any that don't introduce bills to take those powers back into our hands.

                            That being said, there is a bill in the wings of the house to allow your plan. should be on the floor any day now. It will be interesting. If it's a D bill, it will probably put the blame on Insurance companies if they don't offer your plan. If it's a R bill, it will want to dismantle the whole ACA bill. Which is going to screw the people either way. If they don't put that bill on the floor, and you can be sure it was for the purpose of not infringing on the insurance companies to make big profits from this and blame the other side of the isle. Heaven forbid they shut off any campaign contributions. Both sides get it, the only ones that don't get it are the Sheeple.

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                            • t.nie
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1146

                              #89
                              The proposal by the President says you can keep your crap good for nothing plan for another year, provided 1-The insurance company selling it to you tells you the truth about what you are paying for (nothing worth paying for) and 2-the insurance company gives you your alternatives through the exchanges.

                              I like it. Educate people on what they are paying for. Most people, not all, will think with their wallet and not their ideology and even if they HATE OBAMA, they will realize they should pay some more and get a decent plan that covers something, instead of a piece of paper with the words "Health Insurance Policy" written on it that pays for next to nothing.

                              These insurance companies are selling the Health Insurance equivalent of aftermarket Auto Warranties. Sure, you can buy one, but you best read the fine print and hope you never actually need it.

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                              • dirtisforracin
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 545

                                #90
                                Its CRAP in your eyes and goverments eyes. The educated people are ready are paying for want the want. Its the uneducated and ill-informed that dont have a clue to whats going on. They will realize and should pay more, and get decent coverage. In your eyes. you see its your eyes, NOT mine. You dont know whats good for ME, Clayton, and so on! You are infringing your believes on ME! I could give a dam about your choices in life, and as long as your choices dont affect me I could give a rats A--! You and the President force this piece of crap down the throats of us that dont want it, is BS. Mind your own dam business, I will mind mine.
                                They were so many other ways to cover the uninsured without the goverments interference, but this is about CONTROL period.
                                Last edited by dirtisforracin; 11-15-2013, 12:46 PM.

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